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 Post subject: 37mm - What Exactly is This?
PostPosted: Wed May 10, 2017 8:24 pm 
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These are very common and can be found on almost every military collectors website. As a matter of fact, I know where there are eight for sale right now. They are sold as "trench art", "desktop ornaments", "training aids", etc. They are usually inexpensive and they do make good display items:

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What exactly is it? I doubt that it could be labelled trench art. Could it be something that was mass produced after the war to be sold to visitors as they wandered the countryside? Since almost everybody used a 37mm during the war these are available in French, English, and German versions (like this one):

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All of them have either had the cap removed or fired, and all, that I have seen, are clearly marked:

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I use it as a display piece with Pickelhauben and Schirmutzen, but I never figured out just exactly what it was.

Any info appreciated!

John :)


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These are referred to as sectioned ordinance. They are popular among some ordinance collectors for a couple of reasons, first is they show how the round functioned and in some areas, the paranoia about anything ordinance is so high that this type of ordinance is usually recognized as inert and safe. But not always.

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That is a rather nice piece.

BTW Gus, it is ordnance. Ordinance is a piece of legislation enacted by a municipal authority, such as "according to the new ordinance all old ordnance must be made safe and inert."

I've confused the two in the past as well.


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PostPosted: Thu May 11, 2017 12:51 pm 
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Gustaf wrote:
These are referred to as sectioned ordinance. They are popular among some ordinance collectors for a couple of reasons, first is they show how the round functioned and in some areas, the paranoia about anything ordinance is so high that this type of ordinance is usually recognized as inert and safe. But not always.


But why were they made? Somebody had to have a reason to make so many of these. Were they sold as souvenirs?
When I got back from the Persian Gulf I didn't know anybody that wanted a cut 155mm round. Why were these so popular???

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Hey John,
There is a segment of the collecting community that has been cutting projectiles and grenades (that saves me from the spell check on laws) recently, one collector I can think of probably started doing it because he had just about everything on his list and wanted to do something with the duplicates. With the right kind of saw, it is easy to do. The really interesting ones are the artillery projectiles with complex fuses. they pretty much all look alike from the outside, but when you cut into them you can see the engineering and complexity of their design. By the way Peter, have you noticed I still use two spaces after a period? :)

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Gustaf wrote:
Hey John,
There is a segment of the collecting community that has been cutting projectiles and grenades (that saves me from the spell check on laws) recently, one collector I can think of probably started doing it because he had just about everything on his list and wanted to do something with the duplicates. With the right kind of saw, it is easy to do. The really interesting ones are the artillery projectiles with complex fuses. they pretty much all look alike from the outside, but when you cut into them you can see the engineering and complexity of their design. By the way Peter, have you noticed I still use two spaces after a period? :)


That makes sense. Maybe this wasn't cut shortly after the war. Maybe these were cut recently from old stockpiles.
I suppose that would explain why there are so many of them. I just thought it was a neat display and I got a good price.

Thanks for the info!

John :)


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