GDC GDK Helmstern Offizier .. ?

Königsulan · Lite Contributor Joined: 05 Nov 2008 Posts: 9

Hello Collectors ,

please excuse my bad englich ... !

Can everybody give me an opinion to this Offizier Helmstern of an Garde Kürasser / GDC , if you think it is an originality ?

regards and thanks for looking
Kö.ulan

http://ebayc.regionalis.de/IMG_0033.JPG
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http://ebayc.regionalis.de/IMG_0041.JPG
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Königsulan · Lite Contributor Joined: 05 Nov 2008 Posts: 9

Hello Experts,

nobody here how can give me an opinion if it could be authentic ?
This , is no Item at ebay , only the servers Name !
I can get the Helm and be not sure with this Stern ....
regards
Kö.ulan
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Königsulan · Lite Contributor Joined: 05 Nov 2008 Posts: 9

911car · Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 2:29 am Post subject:

Hello Koenigsulan,
Sorry, but your message is not very clear, and you show only high magnification pictures of the helmet. What exactly do you want to know?
(sie koennen auch auf Deutsch schreiben...).

Königsulan · Lite Contributor Joined: 05 Nov 2008 Posts: 9

Hello,

thanks , i try ..

I can bought this Helm but when I look at the Stern I don´t know it is ok ?

German:
Ich kann diesen Helm kaufen , aber wenn ich mir den Stern ansehe , bin ich mir nicht sicher ob er original ist. Daher bitte ich Sammler , die evtl. solch einen Helm besitzen einmal zu vergleichen. Die Ränder sind mir nicht scharfkantig genug und Details nicht sauber genug ausgearbeitet. Vielleicht gibt es ja hier einen Sammler , der einen Offizier GDK / GDC zum Vergleich hat. Hergestellt wurde der Helm von der Fa. Juncker 1913. Vielen dank.

m.f.g.
Kö.ulan
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Adler · Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 3:24 am Post subject:

Hello Königsulan,
I think it's not original, because there's not enough detail in the wappen and the eagle looks more like another birdie...
Here's an original for comparison... I hope this will help you...

Adler

PS Sorry for the poor quality of the picture, but that's the only one I have available right now...

Königsulan · Lite Contributor Joined: 05 Nov 2008 Posts: 9

Hello Adler,

thanks for your opinion .
Yes , I think it too it is non original . One Point at the Eagle I can´t believe are the yellow line in the middle of the eagle. Every Gardestern I look the line are in waves from left to right and here I saw first time lines from up to down in poor quality.
If someone have opinion too , please answer.
regards
Kö.ulan
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joerookery · Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 8:23 am Post subject:

I am no expert and I do not have one of these helmets. But I would vote no -- not original -- looks like one of those that came out of England. Listen to Bruno he knows his stuff.
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rurik22 · Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 9:21 am Post subject:

if you have a doubt , there is no doubt , ... dont bought it

personaly i am thinking too it is a copy , adler dont match

911car · Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 10:57 am Post subject:

I agree with Adler, this bird looks weird. Not only the feather pattern though; it looks like it is wearing a wool cap instead of a crown...
I also vote for a copy.
As Rurik writes, if you already have a doubt at the time of purchase it will be difficult to convince yourself later...
Do you have pictures of the whole helmet?

Königsulan · Lite Contributor Joined: 05 Nov 2008 Posts: 9

Hello,
thanks for your answers . I show the Helm last week and I don´t buy the Helm because of the points we write here. But I asked here if my opinion is the same like some other collecters.
Here on Pic of the whole Helm.
best regards
Kö.ulan

http://ebayc.regionalis.de/IMG_0054.JPG
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minihelmets · Lite Contributor Joined: 22 Jul 2009 Posts: 35

are there picture of the helmet from different angles and is there a pic of the rear of the plate

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911car · Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 2:14 am Post subject:

Hi Koenigsulan,
I think the request was for pictures of the helmet, not the plate, from different angles.

poniatowski · Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 8:10 pm Post subject:

For me, the red lights on this one are the detail of the enameled eagle's head, which aren't very crisp; and the large space between the star motto and enamel. On my helmet, as on Adler's, the eagle has detail to the crown (ja, it's pretty tiny, sehr klein!) and the beak is very distinct. Also, there is no gap between the cut out lettering and white enamel.... on my helmet.
If you're wondering about the entire helmet, post photos of the liner and the helmet from all sides.

Very Happy

Ron
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