Fusilier Regt 34

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Fusilier Regt 34

Post by KAGGR#1 » Sat Sep 10, 2016 6:30 pm

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Fusilier Regt 34 Garrison Stettin
2 Officers helmets
the active officer on the left has a paper label inside
with the officers name and his regiment
I have not seen many labels like this in officers helmets

A very nice set of epaulettes and shoulder straps for a Hauptmann
Interesting that on the cyphers of the shoulder straps
the crowns are connected to the V cypher
yet on the epaulettes the crowns are not attached
My guess is that they are so large they had to fit above
on their own .

The Queen of Sweden as Chef of F R 34 wearing the uniform
and holding the helmet of the regiment . I like to see the lady
Chefs in their uniforms

Nice cypher of F R 34

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Re: Fusilier Regt 34

Post by Westfront » Sun Sep 11, 2016 3:47 am

Again very nice helmets :thumb up:

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Re: Fusilier Regt 34

Post by Glennj » Sun Sep 11, 2016 4:57 am

Steve,

can you reveal the active officer's name please?

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Re: Fusilier Regt 34

Post by KAGGR#1 » Sun Sep 11, 2016 12:30 pm

Glenn ;
Yes
I can and will do
I will try for today
I need to get a good , clear shot
I will need my wife to help me
I have been using old photos that I
had already taken
I really can't remember if he was
F R 33 or F R 34
I have not looked at the tag in years
once I put them on the cabinet shelf
I leave them alone .
The helmet is a later war time
as you see from the photo
the chin straps also remove
so I assume that he was in the regiment later on

It would be great to have information on him
if you find anything .
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Post by J.LeBrasseur » Sun Sep 11, 2016 1:55 pm

One helmet on my want list, great stuff!

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Re: Fusilier Regt 34

Post by KAGGR#1 » Sun Sep 11, 2016 2:42 pm

James ;

Only 1 helmet on your want list ?

I don't think in 46 years I have seen
an enlisted helmet that I knew was / is correct
for F R 33 / F R 34

Perhaps the location of the Garrison ?

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Post by Spiker » Sun Sep 11, 2016 3:07 pm

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Post by KAGGR#1 » Sun Sep 11, 2016 3:47 pm

Orson Wells in Citizen Cane

Long considered the greatest movie ever made .

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Post by Spiker » Sun Sep 11, 2016 5:39 pm

You know your movies Steve :thumb up:
he’s impressed by your babies :)
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Re: Fusilier Regt 34

Post by kaiser » Mon Sep 12, 2016 5:28 pm

This is so great to have sutch a variety of stuf to match a helmet

Awsome collection as i see it

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Re: Fusilier Regt 34

Post by KAGGR#1 » Mon Sep 12, 2016 8:02 pm

Glenn ;
I put him under the wrong heading .
He is in fact Fusilier Regt 33.
In pencil inside the helmet
1. 7 . 16
paper label
Oberleutnant
Gruter
5. Komp. Fus. = Regt. Nr. 33
Laine writes that 5 and 6 Komp. took the
same front plate as Fusilier Regt 34
so a good feeling and 100 % correct
Now I just need to epaulettes and / or
officers shoulder straps for F R 33
Please let me know what you find out
Thanks
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Re: Fusilier Regt 34

Post by KAGGR#1 » Mon Sep 12, 2016 8:14 pm

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While I had the helmet out for the label shot
I took this photo with the spike and chin straps removed .
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Post by JzPf » Mon Sep 12, 2016 8:41 pm

Very nice, great stuff!

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Re: Fusilier Regt 34

Post by Adler » Tue Sep 13, 2016 8:17 am

Talking about rare and beatiful... Super haube!

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Re: Fusilier Regt 34

Post by KAGGR#1 » Tue Sep 13, 2016 2:44 pm

I have not been a member of the site
very long . I hope this has not been covered
in the past .

Would other site members please tell of
or show photos of helmets they have
in their collection with an officers name
and regiment on a paper label
inside the helmet .

Thank you

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Re: Fusilier Regt 34

Post by festwagner » Thu Sep 29, 2016 1:58 am

Hello
Nothing about this Grüter in the Verlustlisten. But if was wounded or killed after the end of 1916, the units are no more mentioned..
The FR 34 Regimentsgeschichte (regimentshistory) may have an Ehrentafel with the names of the officers killed or wounded ? I didn't have it.

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Re: Fusilier Regt 34

Post by KAGGR#1 » Thu Sep 29, 2016 12:52 pm

festwagner ;

Thank you for your effort

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Re: Fusilier Regt 34

Post by razputin » Tue Oct 04, 2016 12:54 pm

Awesome epaulettes. I've been looking for a pair for ages!
Here's some of my stuff from FR34.

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Re: Fusilier Regt 34

Post by KAGGR#1 » Tue Oct 04, 2016 2:19 pm

Hello razputin ;
Thank you for your post and photos .
I am super impressed !
My epaulettes I got years ago
they with the pair of shoulder straps that you see in my photo
same rank ; same man .

Where are you located ?
What sparked your special interest in Fusilier Regt 33 / 34 ?

Two things that impress me are your veterans badges
and your shoulder strap collection .
You have great depth in both areas

I also collect veterans badges
and I have what I consider a very serious collection
of officers cyphered shoulder straps .
I am surprised that there is not more interest in
shoulder straps .
Brian was extra nice to set up a shoulder strap section
at my suggestion , but there seems to be a lack of interest .
I understand this site is for helmets mainly
however every soldier and officer that had a helmet
wore shoulder straps and / or epaulettes also.

I have not seen another pair of epaulettes
offered since I bought mine .

You have a super group and thanks for showing it .

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Re: Fusilier Regt 34

Post by razputin » Tue Oct 04, 2016 2:45 pm

Hi Steve,

They're certainly very nice and I can't wait until I find a pair of my own. The Haubes looks magnificent as well. Is that a loose shoulderboard chiffre I'm spotting in the picture?

I'm from Sweden. Some of years ago I spotted a FR34 veteran badge with the three Swedish crowns on ebay and started reading up on the regiment and I've been hooked since. Set up in then Swedish Pommern as the Queens Life Guard at foot in 1720. Fought against Friedrich der Grosse in the Seven years war and the french in the Napoleonic wars, then handed over to the Prussians after the trade of Norway for Pommern in the Treaty of Kiel with Denmark in 1814. Lots of Swedish volunteers after that and during World War 1. In 1908 the Honor-Colonel title was given to the cousin of Wilhelm II, the Queen of Sweden as well as her personal chiffre for their shoulders. Her uniform you see in the postcard is preserved here in Sweden at the Royal Armory in Stockholm.

I think both the veteran badges and shoulderstraps are a really neat and for the most time an inexpensive hobby. One have a lifelong collecting if one focus on all of the regiments. As for me that only collect one, it's sadly very far between the new additions as of late.

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Post by razputin » Tue Oct 04, 2016 2:56 pm

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Re: Fusilier Regt 34

Post by KAGGR#1 » Tue Oct 04, 2016 3:32 pm

Christian ;
First , thanks a lot for posting the color photos
of the F R 34 outfit of the Queen of Sweden .
Ever since I got that photo of her as Chef of the regiment
I had wondered where her helmet and outfit were .
Now I know .
I wonder if that nice set of epaulettes of hers with the fringe
are hidden under the cloak ?
Those are super photos .

I have also a single major shoulder strap of F R 34
however it has red underlay
I know the strap is original
The other thing that I can think of is
If they ever changed Armee K . ?

A friend of mine , Mike Kelso is about to go to press
with a book on Imperial German shoulder straps .

On your enlisted straps of F R 34
some have the blue stripe at the bottom
This is for sort of special school the soldier attended ?

Not knowing how old you are ;
Years ago I had a collector friend in Stockholm , Sweden .
Jarl Hartze
he was well know world wide
A big time early collector
He came to visit me a couple of times
when he was in the States .

If you ever have the time
I see you have regiment histories of F R 34
if you happen to have F R 33
maybe my officer has his name in the book ?

Thanks for all
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Re: Fusilier Regt 34

Post by KAGGR#1 » Tue Oct 04, 2016 6:37 pm

Christian ;

Do you also collect Grenadier Regt. zu Pferde # 3 ?
( Dragoon Regt. 3 )
The loose cypher was sent to me years ago by Jarl Hartze .
Since it is " flat " I assume that it is not for a German regiment
but a Swedish regiment that had the same cypher .

Do you know of Gilbert Hamilton a Swedish officer
who served in the German Kurassiere Regiments ?

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Re: Fusilier Regt 34

Post by razputin » Tue Oct 04, 2016 7:00 pm

Hi Steve,

Don't think they're under cloak for that photo but I'm certain they have them somewhere. The complete wardrobe of the Queen (and our other regents) are in the possession of the armory. It's been a long time since the uniforms been on display and I've never seen it myself, but hopefully they'll show up in some future installment.

Sounds strange that it would be on red underlay. What I know the were with the second AK prewar and during the war. Perhaps you could post it? Would love to see it.

I was told by Chip over at GMIC forum that the blue cord meant ""für erfolgte Abkommandirungen zum Lehr-Infanterie-Bataillon"".

I'm in my late twenties so I never got to learn to know Jarl, but I've heard about him before from other collectors.

Sorry, I've concentrated on FR34, so I don't have anything on FR33.

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Re: Fusilier Regt 34

Post by razputin » Tue Oct 04, 2016 7:16 pm

Steve ;

I don't have any thing Gren. Reg z. Pferde nr 3. But I find them interesting due to there connection with Sweden via Gustav the fifth being there Honor Colonel and bearing his chiffre. I think the cypher is made by the Swedish firm Sporrong for the Swedish regiment "Royal Life Guards".

Gilbert Hamilton is a interesting character. I've read his book on his exploits during the first world war. His march back from eastern Europe to Germany after the end of the war is really something.

I own a gift-portrait of Hamilton presented to his friend Felix Graf von Luckner. I'll see if I can take a photo of it later.

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Re: Fusilier Regt 34

Post by KAGGR#1 » Tue Oct 04, 2016 7:35 pm

Christian ;
Maybe we can do a P M
and exchange emails
It is a lot easier for me to scan photos
and sent to desk top , then attach to an email
a lot quicker and easier than Photo bucket
I can get you a photo that way .
There are some straps that seem 100 % original to me
that do not conform to known rules
meaning to me they are not "put together "
also with email I can you other things that might not be of interest
to other members .

I have a great B & W 8 " X 10 " photo of Jarl
seated in front of some of his helmets
He also sold me some Gilbert Hamilton items that
I traded away and wish that I still had .

Jarl had a contact sheet of Gilbert Hamilton photos
some young in Swedish uniform ; some in German uniform
and some as an older man , still slim and trim and could still dress in his
uniforms and pose in front of a wall with a lot of his military items
mounted on the wall
I still have all of those

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Re: Fusilier Regt 34

Post by Mappa » Thu Sep 14, 2017 11:31 am

Very nice collection, Christian, also great to see a fellow Swede here aswell =D>

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