Regimental Standard Grouping

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Regimental Standard Grouping

Post by JzPf » Sun Sep 18, 2016 8:43 pm

A Line Infantry Regimental Standard from the 1890's hand embroidered on white silk. A little worn, but at about 120 years old it still looks great, especially when you consider it has survived two wars!

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Close up of the center
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Prussian Standartentraeger ringkragens & patches
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Foul weather cover and pole top with 1914-1918 Honor Cross and Banderole from 1900
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A selection of banderoles and the 1914-1918 Honor Cross.
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Close up of banderole front
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Close up of banderole back
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Re: Regimental Standard Grouping

Post by KAGGR#1 » Sun Sep 18, 2016 8:51 pm

Dennis ;
Very nicely done !
A rare group of Fahna items .
Thanks for the post and photos

You have one more to do !

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Post by Tony without Kaiser » Sun Sep 18, 2016 10:40 pm

Incredible. We would all be happy just to see these items. Like Steve's collection, I cannot wrap my head around the fact that you actually own them. Wow. :bravo:
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Post by edwin » Mon Sep 19, 2016 3:52 pm

Impressive is the only word I can think of now :D

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Post by Westfront » Tue Sep 20, 2016 6:38 am

Very impressive :thumb up:

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Post by JzPf » Tue Sep 20, 2016 8:43 pm

Thank you!

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Post by Spiker » Wed Sep 21, 2016 2:55 am

Great stuff, this really breaths out the imperial era. :thumb up:
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Post by Khukri » Wed Sep 21, 2016 4:39 am

:bravo:

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Post by kaiser » Wed Sep 21, 2016 6:53 pm

So fragile but still very impressive this is the first time to see one of these

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Post by JzPf » Fri Sep 23, 2016 5:43 pm

Again, thank you for all the kind comments. Here is an approximation of what it would have looked like in its' heyday.

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Re: Regimental Standard Grouping

Post by KAGGR#1 » Fri Sep 23, 2016 7:43 pm

Nothing like a real Imperial German regimental flag !
The white flags are for the regiments / batls. that
had white shoulder straps . There was only 1 flag per Batl
The German Armee considered the flag to be the focal point
of the regiment .
Who would have thought that we could ever be so lucky
to own one of these in a private collection .
General Patton's Army took possession of quite a few
of the Imperial Army after WW II.
They keep then for a number of years .
Later in about the 1950's the German government
asked for their flags back and they were returned .
However , while in storage some of the G.I.'s
removed some of the flags from their flag poles
and lifted the flags . That is how the white flag
that is shown here became possible to own .
There is no way now to tell exactly which regiment it is from
as the only true way to know is from the unit ring nailed
to the pole which the G . I. left in place .
Several poles less the flags were returned with the unit
rings still attached . Reinhard Redlin did an article about
this some years ago. The white flag shown along with
my Standarte of the 7th Kurassiere Regt were owned
and sold by Ray Zyla of Mohawk Arms . The story I was told
by Ray is that an Army doctor brought the 2 flags back from
Germany after the war . He kept them a number of years
Since he had no children at an older age he gave them to
someone who worked for him . They then were sold
or consigned to Ray for sale .
The reason the flags were removed from the poles is that
the poles are too long to be able to lift without someone
seeing what was being done . Neil Stewart of Tiger III books
and Wilhelm Steifensand are working on some volumes
of books on the subject of German flags .
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Re: Regimental Standard Grouping

Post by KAGGR#1 » Sat Sep 24, 2016 1:48 pm

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Center of Kurassiere Regt. 7

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Post by KAGGR#1 » Sat Sep 24, 2016 2:18 pm

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K R 7 color plate by R. Redlin
the cloth ( flag ) renewed by
Kaiser Wilhelm II in 1903
and used until the end of the war
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Re: Regimental Standard Grouping

Post by KAGGR#1 » Sat Sep 24, 2016 2:25 pm

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K R 7 full view
This is what I call the "old Muster "
the square flag , like the old flags
of Friedrich the Great
not the newer swallow tails
there were only 11 Kurassiere flags carried
one per each regiment
except the Leib Kur Regt 1
which had 2 flags
the Leib Standarte
and the Regiment Standarte
each flag was different
no 2 Kur flags alike
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Re: Regimental Standard Grouping

Post by JzPf » Sun Sep 25, 2016 8:01 pm

Beautiful! The detail on the embroidery is very impressive, indeed. What is the size of the flag?

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Re: Regimental Standard Grouping

Post by KAGGR#1 » Sun Sep 25, 2016 9:19 pm

Dennis ;
Very much smaller than the standard Infantry 4 X 4
remember , as you know these were carried by
mounted troops on horseback .
Just imagine how the wind on a rider on horseback
would whip those flags .
They have an added fabric in between the 2 sides of the flag .
I can't answer tour question right now but I will try
and get you the approximate measurements

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Re: Regimental Standard Grouping

Post by KAGGR#1 » Mon Sep 26, 2016 1:51 pm

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Here is the K R 7 Standarte on view circa 1903 or after
Special thanks to Thomas Brackmann for this photo
which was used in his book .
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Re: Regimental Standard Grouping

Post by Spiker » Wed Oct 05, 2016 4:31 am

Great picture that is !
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Re: Regimental Standard Grouping

Post by Westfront » Fri Oct 07, 2016 12:25 pm

Indeed a great picture :thumb up:

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