A Bavarian Chevauxlegers offizer

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A Bavarian Chevauxlegers offizer

Post by Markgraf » Fri Mar 13, 2020 9:31 am

Hi Gentlemans!

A friend of mine asked a little help with this fine portrait.

It is possible to identify the person? And what ar the medals (except the EK2)?

Thanks in advance!

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Post by coert65 » Fri Mar 13, 2020 10:07 am

I wish I could, but the picture isn't visible, well, for me at least.

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Post by aicusv » Fri Mar 13, 2020 1:42 pm

Try reposting the photos.
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Re: A Bavarian Chevauxlegers offizer

Post by Markgraf » Fri Mar 13, 2020 4:29 pm

Excuse me, I hope it works...

https://photos.app.goo.gl/iG7roPoBxjMyb5yG6

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Re: A Bavarian Chevauxlegers offizer

Post by 911car » Fri Mar 13, 2020 4:37 pm

Hi Markgraf,
This is a picture of a Ulan, not a Chevau-Leger (without an x).
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Post by Markgraf » Fri Mar 13, 2020 5:10 pm

911car: For some reason I thought that the Bavarian Chevaulegers wore the same uniform as the Uhlans...Thanks!

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Post by 911car » Fri Mar 13, 2020 5:30 pm

Markgraf,
The equivalent of a Bavarian Chevau-Leger, in other states, is actually a Dragoner.

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Re: A Bavarian Chevauxlegers offizer

Post by Sandmann » Fri Mar 13, 2020 6:30 pm

I‘m with 911car, it’s an Ulan. Chevauleger wore other Helmets.
Concerning the Text I’m not 100% sure, but it could be:
Ulan Emanuel
Hergoy in ?Bayern? 1893

Medals from right could be:
Armeedenkzeichen 1866 (Bayern)
Maybe Bayerische Tapferkeitsmedaille, Rettungsmedaille (Bayern) or other medal
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Post by Tony without Kaiser » Sat Mar 14, 2020 8:41 am

Probably the writing is not 'Ulan' as that is a rank of Private. This man is a Field Grade officer (Major and above)
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//Concerning the Text I’m not 100% sure, but it could be:
Ulan Emanuel
Hergoy in ?Bayern? 1893 //
Try this link http://www.kaisersbunker.com/gtp/chev.htm to explain the difference. Basically, Ulanen wore Epauletten and Polish cuffs. Chevauleger wore shoulder straps (Other Ranks) and shoulder boards (officers), and wore Swedish cuffs.
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Post by Markgraf » Sun Mar 15, 2020 8:38 am

Ok, so he is a Bavarian Uhlan Field Grade officer. Thank You!

Did have the Bavarian Army similar periodical like the Austro-Hungarian Schematismus? Because I would like to identify him.

The photo came form a family album of a Hungarian noble family. Now we try to identify the persons on the photos, and reveal the connections with the family.

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Post by Glennj » Wed May 27, 2020 3:04 pm

Greetings,

Generalleutnant Max Emanuel Herzog in Bayern, à la suite of 1. Ulanen-Regiment, commander of the equitation school in Munich.

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Post by b.loree » Thu May 28, 2020 3:20 pm

You never cease to amaze me with your ID skills Glenn! :thumb up:
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Re: A Bavarian Chevauxlegers offizer

Post by cptbob » Mon Jun 01, 2020 2:57 pm

I believe that is a Cheveaux-leger. The Cheveaux-leger uniform was the same as the Ulanka, but it was only piped down the right side. There does not appear to be any piping on the left side of this one. It's at least a Cheveaux-leger uniform. If he was the honorary commander of multiple units maybe he is mixing uniforms

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