model 1860?

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model 1860?

Post by JiriLichy » Sat Jun 23, 2018 10:08 am

Hi guys,
I have this garde regiment nr.4 Habue. I am not sure what model it is? It was declared as m1880, but it seems too high. Please advise
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Jiri
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Re: model 1860?

Post by 911car » Sat Jun 23, 2018 12:16 pm

Yes indeed, a 1860 model. Missing the visor rim, back spine, and with a wrong eagle plate.

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Re: model 1860?

Post by JiriLichy » Mon Jun 25, 2018 7:04 am

Thank you for answer. It can be seen that the eagle doesn´t fit the marks on helmet. Also it is marked inside with" 4.G." And also the spike has a screw and can be changed for the parade tail. Now only get the right eagle and clean it.

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Re: model 1860?

Post by SkipperJohn » Tue Oct 16, 2018 11:18 pm

That is a perfectly appropriate Wappen for that helmet. The holes are present for the addition of the "Mit Gott für König und Vaterland" bandeaux that was added in 1860.
See a Kurassier example here:
viewtopic.php?f=47&t=11787

The Model 1860 Infantry helmet used, at least, four different Wappens where a standard line eagle was called for:
M1842 with soldered on bandeaux
M1842 with stamped bandeaux
M1842 with stamped (or soldered) bandeaux and FWR cypher
M1860 with or without FWR cypher

It is a pity that the crown is missing, and it doesn't seem to match the indentations on the leather shell, but it is an appropriate Wappen for the period.
It looks like this helmet originally had a grenadier Wappen.

John :)

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Re: model 1860?

Post by pickelhauben » Wed Oct 17, 2018 8:31 am

I do like these old helmets !!!

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