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Time machine

Post by 911car » Sun Jul 15, 2018 8:23 am

Looks like the forum is asleep...
This is an interesting spiked helmet.
The regimental marking is not easy to make out though, but I hope you can recognize R.89. I'm afraid some greasy stuff was spread on the inside, including the name tag, at some point in the past.
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Re: Time machine

Post by stuka f » Sun Jul 15, 2018 8:25 am

911car wrote:
Sun Jul 15, 2018 8:23 am
Looks like the forum is asleep...


Summer holidays I presume! :D

Very nice helmet , btw.
Always looking for Belgian Congo stuff!
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Re: Time machine

Post by 911car » Sun Jul 15, 2018 8:42 am

The name tag is to Grenadier Gaede II, 5. Kompagnie.
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Re: Time machine

Post by 911car » Sun Jul 15, 2018 8:45 am

Then comes Philippe. He was able to spot the "Verlustlisten" of GR89, 5. Kompagnie. We do find Grenadier Franz Gaede II, from Herzwolde, Neustrelitz, who was killed in action in Carlepont (Oise, North East of Paris) in December 1914.
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Re: Time machine

Post by ebeeby » Sun Jul 15, 2018 10:27 am

Nice sleuthing....

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Re: Time machine

Post by stuka f » Sun Jul 15, 2018 11:06 am

Always great to have the history.
Well done.
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Re: Time machine

Post by Lars13 » Sun Jul 15, 2018 4:52 pm

Very nice, thanks for posting. I really like the traceable helmets...

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Re: Time machine

Post by badener » Sun Jul 15, 2018 7:13 pm

Super helmet Bruno! :D
It must be a Bavarian. They always smell the worst!

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Re: Time machine

Post by pickelhauben » Sun Jul 15, 2018 11:23 pm

Yes a sweet helmet indeed.

I do not have a Meck Sterlitz


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Re: Time machine

Post by argonne » Mon Jul 16, 2018 2:32 pm

Hi Bruno,

You are showing us one of the scarcest helmet of the second Reich, like I love them, with trackable name in it. This is one of the best garantee of originality you can have.

This rare Wappen is looking good to me too, especially the center which is NOT showing the 4 or 5 soldered points (which are most of the time the proof of a fake plate). Could you show us a pict of the back of the wappen, how the center is hold on the Strelitz sun?

Now you have to learn German and read the "Regiments Geschichte" of the GR89, especially the pages related to the furious trench-fights near Carlepont (9-25.12.1914).

Here is the link to it:

https://portal.dnb.de/bookviewer/view/1 ... 0/mode/1up

It´s told there that especially the 5/89 had big human losts during the fights of the 21 and of the 25.12.14 as white and black french soldiers attacked its trench sector. You will find at the end of the book a small map (Skizze 2: Weihnachtskämpfe 1914) showing the central front sector occuped by the II/89 during those late December days, just between the III/89 on its right and the I/89 on its left.

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Post by b.loree » Mon Jul 16, 2018 4:22 pm

Excellent helmet as always! So good to have an owner name and history along with it. :thumb up: We have been baking in 30+C temps and high humidity here.
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Re: Time machine

Post by Jaap Verduijn » Tue Jul 17, 2018 12:21 pm

Beautiful helmet! Yet it always makes me kind of sad when the name of the bearer shows up in the Verlustliste...
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Re: Time machine

Post by 911car » Wed Jul 18, 2018 10:41 am

Thank you gentlemen for your nice comments. Jaap, I fully share your compassion.
I stressed the provenance of this helmet but I did not, as Philippe did, remind you that it is indeed a very rare model, worn in only one battalion of GR89. Quite a few fakes exist.
Philippe, thank you very much for your comments and help with Ranglisten. I am not fluent in spoken German but I am okay reading it. I have started the IR89 history book you sent.
The white metal center is affixed with two leather tabs. These are old and look fragile. I did not dare taking the center off.
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Re: Time machine

Post by argonne » Wed Jul 18, 2018 12:28 pm

911car wrote:
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The white metal center is affixed with two leather tabs.
Hi Bruno,

These are good news! Solder at this place would have been a big red flag [-X
And yes, I agree: a II/GR89 original helmet is an extremly scarce one. You will not see a lot in a collectors life time. To own a good one is a real challenge! I would not hesitate to let some of my best helmets go if I could find such a good one with tracked wearers name!!! I simply love Mecklenburg helmets!!!

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Re: Time machine

Post by edwin » Wed Jul 18, 2018 4:16 pm

Great helmet with an interesting history!

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Re: Time machine

Post by festwagner » Sat Jul 21, 2018 4:07 pm

One of the scarest helmet and here with its History thanks to the name of the soldier. It doesn't get better than that!
That's the type of helmet for which I surrender to find one exemplar. Too few still existing...

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Re: Time machine

Post by Spiker » Sun Jul 22, 2018 8:40 am

:o Very nice Gaede helmet :thumb up:

(someone should make that joke)

no very nice , used to have one too w. reg. nr.
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Re: Time machine

Post by Westfront » Thu Jul 26, 2018 3:37 am

Very nice and rare helmet :bravo:

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Re: Time machine

Post by 911car » Sat Jul 28, 2018 11:47 pm

argonne wrote:
Mon Jul 16, 2018 2:32 pm
Hi Bruno,
This rare Wappen is looking good to me too, especially the center which is NOT showing the 4 or 5 soldered points (which are most of the time the proof of a fake plate).
Philippe
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Re: Time machine

Post by 911car » Sun Jul 29, 2018 6:30 pm

The last prince of Mecklenburg-Strelitz just passed away:

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Re: Time machine

Post by ww1czechlegion » Mon Aug 13, 2018 5:36 am

Congratulations Bruno on adding such a super rare and fantastic looking helmet to your collection! =D>

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