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grenadier eagle?

Post by Sergei1877 » Thu May 14, 2020 10:41 am

Dear friends, tell me by the find from the battlefields. Found an eagle in cupronickel (Neusilber) what kind of regiment wore such an eagle?
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Re: grenadier eagle?

Post by aicusv » Fri May 15, 2020 11:38 am

You are coming up with some strange ones.
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Post by Zebedeus » Fri May 15, 2020 12:38 pm

It doesnt seem cupro-nickel. It is magnetic? I suppose an M15 grenadier eagle who has completely lost the feldgrau finish due to rust.
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Post by Tony without Kaiser » Fri May 15, 2020 5:46 pm

If its Neusilber, then you are narrowed down to one Regt.

Grenadier-zu-Pferd-Regt. Freiherr von Derfflinger (Neumärkisches) Nr.3 (Bromberg) II Armee Korps

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Post by Zebedeus » Sat May 16, 2020 10:00 am

Tony without Kaiser wrote:
Fri May 15, 2020 5:46 pm
If its Neusilber, then you are narrowed down to one Regt.

Grenadier-zu-Pferd-Regt. Freiherr von Derfflinger (Neumärkisches) Nr.3 (Bromberg) II Armee Korps

http://www.kaisersbunker.com/gtp/New/dragon0.htm
actually also dragoner regiment nr.1 adopted siver fittings by an AKO of 1916, but both dragoner regiment 1 & 3 wear a different eagle (regulamentation says "garde adler ohne stern" garde eagle without star). The correct eagle for those regiments is similar to line grenadier eagle but differs because it has a small eagle on the top of scepter and sword's hilt is like guard eagle and not S-shape like grenadiers. Also ulanen regiment nr.7 after 1912 wear a similar eagle but smaller.
So the type of eagle posted by Sergey1877 simply doesn't exist according to regulamentation. I have seen a couple of private purchase pickelhauben of grenadier zu pferde regiment that wear a non-regulamentar eagle but probably for production economy reasons, in any case the issued pickelhaube for enlisted men (kammer) must have the regulamentar eagle with correct scepter and sword.

My hypotesis about the M1915 eagle is based on the fact that neusilber will never be attacked by rust as the eagle pictured. If you look at the superior edges of the wings the are not smooth but rough because of some kind of rust aggression. I am 95% sure that eagle posted is magnetic.
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Re: grenadier eagle?

Post by reservist1 » Sat May 16, 2020 11:49 am

Here is an example of the helmet for Grenadier Regiment zu Pferd Nr. 3 with the correct front plate.
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Post by Sergei1877 » Sat May 16, 2020 12:06 pm

My hypotesis about the M1915 eagle is based on the fact that neusilber will never be attacked by rust as the eagle pictured. If you look at the superior edges of the wings the are not smooth but rough because of some kind of rust aggression. I am 95% sure that eagle posted is magnetic.

no it’s not magnetic, this find of their land. they just cleaned it and he ended up in cupronickel. Why did I discuss it here and posted a photo that this eagle is very strange. I had a version that this is the equestrian or 7th Lancers regiment, but there are still other eagles

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Re: grenadier eagle?

Post by Sergei1877 » Sat May 16, 2020 12:07 pm

if it were magnetic it would not be preserved at all

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Post by KAGGR#1 » Sat May 16, 2020 7:24 pm

reservist1 ;
Is the G R zu Pferde # 3 in your collection ?
That is a nice example
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Post by KAGGR#1 » Sat May 16, 2020 7:27 pm

reservist1 ;
Is the G R zu Pferde # 3 in your collection ?
That is a nice example
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Re: grenadier eagle?

Post by reservist1 » Sat May 16, 2020 7:38 pm

Steve: Yes it is. One of my favorite helmets.

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