grenadier eagle?
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grenadier eagle?
Dear friends, tell me by the find from the battlefields. Found an eagle in cupronickel (Neusilber) what kind of regiment wore such an eagle?
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It doesnt seem cupro-nickel. It is magnetic? I suppose an M15 grenadier eagle who has completely lost the feldgrau finish due to rust.
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Re: grenadier eagle?
If its Neusilber, then you are narrowed down to one Regt.
Grenadier-zu-Pferd-Regt. Freiherr von Derfflinger (Neumärkisches) Nr.3 (Bromberg) II Armee Korps
http://www.kaisersbunker.com/gtp/New/dragon0.htm
Grenadier-zu-Pferd-Regt. Freiherr von Derfflinger (Neumärkisches) Nr.3 (Bromberg) II Armee Korps
http://www.kaisersbunker.com/gtp/New/dragon0.htm
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Re: grenadier eagle?
actually also dragoner regiment nr.1 adopted siver fittings by an AKO of 1916, but both dragoner regiment 1 & 3 wear a different eagle (regulamentation says "garde adler ohne stern" garde eagle without star). The correct eagle for those regiments is similar to line grenadier eagle but differs because it has a small eagle on the top of scepter and sword's hilt is like guard eagle and not S-shape like grenadiers. Also ulanen regiment nr.7 after 1912 wear a similar eagle but smaller.Tony without Kaiser wrote: ↑Fri May 15, 2020 5:46 pmIf its Neusilber, then you are narrowed down to one Regt.
Grenadier-zu-Pferd-Regt. Freiherr von Derfflinger (Neumärkisches) Nr.3 (Bromberg) II Armee Korps
http://www.kaisersbunker.com/gtp/New/dragon0.htm
So the type of eagle posted by Sergey1877 simply doesn't exist according to regulamentation. I have seen a couple of private purchase pickelhauben of grenadier zu pferde regiment that wear a non-regulamentar eagle but probably for production economy reasons, in any case the issued pickelhaube for enlisted men (kammer) must have the regulamentar eagle with correct scepter and sword.
My hypotesis about the M1915 eagle is based on the fact that neusilber will never be attacked by rust as the eagle pictured. If you look at the superior edges of the wings the are not smooth but rough because of some kind of rust aggression. I am 95% sure that eagle posted is magnetic.
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Re: grenadier eagle?
Here is an example of the helmet for Grenadier Regiment zu Pferd Nr. 3 with the correct front plate.
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My hypotesis about the M1915 eagle is based on the fact that neusilber will never be attacked by rust as the eagle pictured. If you look at the superior edges of the wings the are not smooth but rough because of some kind of rust aggression. I am 95% sure that eagle posted is magnetic.
no it’s not magnetic, this find of their land. they just cleaned it and he ended up in cupronickel. Why did I discuss it here and posted a photo that this eagle is very strange. I had a version that this is the equestrian or 7th Lancers regiment, but there are still other eagles
no it’s not magnetic, this find of their land. they just cleaned it and he ended up in cupronickel. Why did I discuss it here and posted a photo that this eagle is very strange. I had a version that this is the equestrian or 7th Lancers regiment, but there are still other eagles
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if it were magnetic it would not be preserved at all
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reservist1 ;
Is the G R zu Pferde # 3 in your collection ?
That is a nice example
Thanks
Steve McFarland
Is the G R zu Pferde # 3 in your collection ?
That is a nice example
Thanks
Steve McFarland
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reservist1 ;
Is the G R zu Pferde # 3 in your collection ?
That is a nice example
Thanks
Steve McFarland
Is the G R zu Pferde # 3 in your collection ?
That is a nice example
Thanks
Steve McFarland
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Steve: Yes it is. One of my favorite helmets.
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