2 helmets from Peter Suciu

joerookery

joerookery

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Peter asked me to post these and get comments. From a local show.
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Thanks for posting Joe!

I saw these at the Meadowlands Militaria Show in Union, NJ today. The seller sometimes gets some interesting items from time to time.

He offered these to me. So I was looking for opinions. I'm a little tapped out, so I'll probably pass regardless at this time.
 
I am intrigued by the cloth covered one. Any marks...maker etc on it? How much does he want? Any more pictures? I don't collect OR helmets but this is veru different.
 
Hi Peter:
The OR's helmet is made from cork covered with cloth obviously. Sometimes, we find felt helmes covered with cloth but they show the felt on the inside. This one is cloth both inside and out so thus ...a cork helme. The tschapka looks like a good honest piece. If I had been there with money, I would have bought both. The cork helme is very rare...yours is the 3rd that I have seen in real life outside reference books in 15 years of collecting. Brian
 
In October 1914 20,000 Korkhelmes were ordered from a firm in Bremen . Generally the war ministry did not look kindly upon Korkhelme because they were considered to be nondurable. These are considered quite rare, and the covering is considered to be cotton. The visors were supposedly black and did not have a trim on the visor or on the back spine.
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This does not look like a Bortfeldt I don't think. I have seen several. Most with cotton cloth covers but all with more standard liners. The only cork jobs I have seen with odd liners are the total cork faux helmets. There was one at SOS. I'm with Brian and the cotton covered one is probably worth snapping up.


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Straps tend to vary widely on these too.
 
Hi Joe:
We should also draw peoples' attention to the chin strap. no M91 side posts, no buckles just a slider arrangement. The strap appears to be permanently fixed to the helme. Brian
 
The cloth-covered helmet seems to be perfectly authentic. I saw exactly the same one, in a better condition, a few weeks ago, found in a large metal suitcase that used to belong to a French WW1 officer. The suitcase was discovered untouched and unopened; among many things it contained this helmet and a wonderful Mecklemburg-Schwerin spike helmet... A dream.
The Tschapka is genuine too, of course. I am interested if it is still for sale...
Bruno
 
I am trying to reach the seller, and I apologize but he is a little difficult to reach. He doesn't have e-mail, and the only phone number is not in service.

I hope I didn't get anyone too excited. But I will try to reach him this week. These look like some interesting pieces so I thought I should share.
 
I have also a cork/cloth-covered helmet with a chinstrap permanently fixed to the helmet. I find this one at a fleamarket in 1996. I saw the seller put it on his stand... I go as quick as possible but another people bought it just before me... for $ 2,50!!! I ask on the buyer if he was collecting helmets, he didn't but he find the item was interresting and the price not expensive so he buy it. I ask him if he would be agree to sell it to me... he accept but ask me $ 12,50! Great deal!

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You can find this kind of helmet in Larcade's book (vol. 1) on page 114 n° 11.
 
Nice Cork Haubes. Peter I am interested in the Tschapka if it passed by.Mark G.
 
Did anyone ever talk to Gary about these? I hadn't heard from him. That canvas helmet interested me, but I'm starting to dabble in British Victorican Era stuff now.

I just can't concentrate on one thing!
 
I missed the chance .To contact him.
Now I will be out of the buying market for a bit . gotta new fangled digital camera .I want to write cannon and see if I get a gollege certificate if I learn to use the 20 or so buttons.
Mark :D
 
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