Adrian with Prussian eagle!

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Go to:

http://cgi.ebay.fr/ww-1-casque-adrian-veteran-allemand-a-voir_W0QQitemZ6634365187QQcategoryZ79243QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Eric
 
Hi Eric,
I believe that's a veteran helmet, something like a trophy ( did you know the WWII belt with German medals, insignias etc ). We can see that the front plate and the visor plate are there a long, long time.
Just my opinion, an interesting item.
Otto
 
That is a French Veteran's commemoritive helmet that some one once upon a time has slapped a Prussian wappen on.

Being a vet myself, what I consider WRONG is not so much the non French
insignia, although this helmet was for a French Veteran of WWI, is the insignia of an enemy combatent who were mortal enemies during that period. I see it akin to sewing an NVA symbol on a USA Viet Nam era uniform. Just WRONG.
 
Hi

In my opinion, this helmet is not "wrong"; it could belong to a Veteran. However the 2 screws of the plate (Soldat de la Grande Guerre) are not genuine (They should be made with brass).

Moreover, if you bring back a Pickelhaube (or just its Wappen) from war, I don't think you will put it on your own helmet. Except for fun!

Eric
 
Check out this link:

http://www.grandearmee.com/browseproducts/French-Adrian-Helmet.html

It's not just correct, it's RIGHT! :-P
 
Hi

Look at the "Great War Commemorative Visor" on your link: there are 2 brass screw, which is correct!


This Chasseur Adrian is superb!

Eric
 
I agree with you, very superb. I wouldn't mind owning one some day. Do you know who awarded these helmets, the French Government or perhaps a French veteran's organization? Regardsless, a very fine memento for the recipient.
 
According to the Government rule, 18th dec 1918, 1 Adrian 1915 helmet should be given each soldier or officer (or their families) involved in the WW1 fights (dead or still alive).
This helmet has a brass commemorative visor ("Soldat de la Grande guerre, 1914-1918").
If asked, this visor could be marked with the name and firstname of the soldier.
This trend (to deliver 1 helmet per soldier) stopped in 1926.

Eric
 
Look at: http://cgi.ebay.fr/CASQUE-ADRIAN-15-CHASSEUR-ALPIN-SUPERBE_W0QQitemZ6632902547QQcategoryZ79243QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

to see a name engraved and the type of brass prongs.

Eric
 
And now, the plate alone:

http://cgi.ebay.fr/BELLE-PLAQUE-DE-CASQUE-ADRIAN-GUERRE-14-18-POILU-WWI_W0QQitemZ6632669691QQcategoryZ79243QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Eric
 
I have one of the veteran plates. They are kind of interesting.

And I had read that the officers and OR had to buy these. They didn't cost much but they were a purchased item I believe.

As for that helmet... probably just something throw together by a veteran after the war. My great uncle has a PPK holster he brought home from Germany in 1945. He had a Panzer Totenkopf <sp> (not SS, they're a little different) and he just stuck it on the holster so he wouldn't lose it.
 
Another angle, I would not equate this to a NVA emblem on a US vet's cap, there are areas in France that are also German, while visiting a distant relative in Strassbourg France, I was interested to see a photo of their grand father in a German uniform of WWI, next to their father wearing a French uniform of 1939. Also, acording to Henri Barbuse's book "Le Feu" there was not always a hatred between the common soldiers of opposing sides, at one point in the book he tells of German and French soldiers banding together and helping each other as they try to seek shelter from artillery bombardment.
Gus
 
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