Armenian Genocide

Peter_Suciu

Peter_Suciu

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Today sadly marks the 100th anniversary of the start of the Armenian Genocide. While human history is marked (even scarred) with such tragic events, it is beyond reasoning why the secular nation of Turkey can't acknowledge this event.

In the Military Museum in Istanbul there is a room devoted to the Armenian incident, but it blames Armenian terrorists and bandits for the deaths of Turks and Arabs and fails to note that between 800,000 and 1.5 million Armenians died.
 
Tell me about it Peter!
And what frustrated many today was the US Presidential communiqué which avoided coining the term 'genocide' so as not to 'offend' the Turkish ally. You can't have double standards with genocides. Either you recognize all or you don't.
I have plenty of Armenians in my family. The good thing about such people is they keep honoring their 1.3 million dead by never forgetting what happened.
 
Turkey ain't much of an ally anymore. Surprised NATO hasn't given them the boot.

Here's their Dear Leader on the Armenian Genocide:

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I grew up with a LOT of American Armenian friends, who were mostly 2nd generation "Americans" as am I, and they were, to a person, some of the nicest people I've ever met. Like so many cultures, they welcomed me their homes with friendly smiles and.... FOOD!

:D Ron
 
Its truly a sad thing that Turkey won't acknowledge the Armenian genocide. Without this reconciliation between Turkey and Armenia will never happen. Following the conclusion of the great war, the Turkish leaders admitted that a genocide had occured and Enver Pasha and Talaat Pasha (principal architect of the genocide) were even put on trial. This because the new Turkish leaders were affraid that the old ottoman empire would be divided amongst the Allies. The British, however, did not push the matter further and therefore the Turks lost interest in the Armenian genocide that was committed by the old Ottoman empire. This allowed the Turks to rewrite history in their favor without reference to the Armenians on every level. Notably, prior to 1915 80% of the people of eastern Turkey comprised Armenians.

Regards,

Edwin
 
Well, Bismark coined the phrase Real Politik to sum it all up. This concept justifies a nation doing anything in its power to survive or promote its own interests which again equates to national survival so therefore, anything goes. Everything is on the table, and even better when you throw religion into the pot..... Jewish Holocaust, Armenian Genocide, El Qaeda, ISIS, Sunni vs Shia, The US and CN treatment of Natives, plus the employment of Nazi rocket scientists to build the US Space program. Might Means Right....and the recent classic....Mr Putin's take over of the Crimea and parts of the Ukraine. God forbid, that the Ukraine should escape the clutches of Moscow! So Hitleresque....".God damn, those Czechs are raping the Sudeten Landers.....oh sorry, I mean those dirty Ukrainians are abusing Russians". Such a classic excuse......and so odd for our glorious allies of WW 2, well not so odd when we look at Stalin's pogrom of the Ukraine in the 20's..... deliberate starvation!
I have studied Russian History, and the thing that sticks in my mind is that life to their leadership is so cheap, it means nothing to take lives or sacrifice lives. Their History is one of monarchy or dictatorship, and slaughter, nothing else. They have brilliance and Kultur but too much blood. The Bolsheviks knocked off the Monarchy and just replaced it with another elite..."The Vanguard of the Proletariat", and now they have Mr. P and his KGB cronies who assassinate any opposition. Mr. Putin recently reminded the world that Russia is a nuclear power and should not be messed with! :) What a Cold War cliche! I really feel sorry for the everyday Russian, what a depressing, grinding existence, no wonder they drink so much Vodka, who wouldn't? Its all so classic and really quite boring Historically, but costs millions of innocent lives. The curse of knowing History, is to have to sit on the side lines and watch it happen all over again. Time and time again! B
 
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