Baden Star enamel peaks Green? Blue? or maybe both?

[weirdpyramid]

So I was flipping through some books and looking on some websites when something very small caught my attention.

Question: Are the centerpiece "peaks" of the Baden 109th officer House Order star always green? or are they sometimes blue? or maybe in some cases a combination of the two?.

This particularly rare helmet seems to be a little hard to find references of it in many collectors collections and in reference material. Some books make the call of green peaks and some books dont mention of the color at all other than they were enameled. Most of my reference books seem to show the star order with three green enameled peaks but I have found some with blue with the center peak missing the enamel. In Stubbs book page 74 thru 78 the blue enamel version is showcased and called out as so but as in a way of it being a "particular" example and it is placed on a different helmet. Maybe it is rare in blue enamel? In the book the center "peak" is missing its enamel so its hard to say what color it might have been. Were there three "peaks" of blue or as i have linked below maybe there was two outer blue points and a center green? The website www.derrittmeister.com has a example of this but again missing the center enameled piece, maybe it was blue? I havent found any detailed information on this subject and seem to be at a dead end. Maybe this isnt anything new or anything important but I would like to bring it up and get some opinions on this.

This link shows the House Order star but not in the form of a wappen attachment
http://ka.stadtwiki.net/Datei:Hausorden_der_Treue_031887_fuer_Stadtwiki.jpg

Blue enamel example
http://www.derrittmeister.com/productpages/04544.htm

and your more common green enameled version
http://www.militaria-online.de/cgi-bin/showart.pl?art=158

 

[poniatowski]

I never noticed that! I wonder if there are any purple mountains around? (Since they look like that sometime)... maybe it was a preference thing. I REALLY don't know.

Ron

 

[Arran]

The wappen on my example has three green peaks. I believe the official Order the wappen represents has green mountains also. Another variation I've also noticed on this wappen is in the placement of the "Chanel" logos sometimes with the broader side facing in, sometimes out...

 

[weirdpyramid]

I wonder if there are any purple mountains around? (Since they look like that sometime)... maybe it was a preference thing.

Ron

Interesting.... what preference though? I can't imagine someone asking "do those come in purple? or how about orange?" Haha, but a very funny visual. Maybe it was like the Mood Ring of the time, the mountains changed color depending on your mood!!

 

[weirdpyramid]

The wappen on my example has three green peaks. I believe the official Order the wappen represents has green mountains also. Another variation I've also noticed on this wappen is in the placement of the "Chanel" logos sometimes with the broader side facing in, sometimes out...

Soooo are blue mountains or any other color than green out of place? Maybe re-enameled after the war or just enameled with whatever color they had on hand at the time(if they ran out of green)? So many possibilities I guess, it is hard to really find a concrete conclusion. Oh and I would love to see a picture of your 109th!