Dragoner Regiment 11 mod. 1860 pickelhaube - untouched condition

[Frozzer]

Hi all
I want to share with You my latest Dragoner pickelhaube from 11DR. It is important for me because this regiment was located in Lyck, Ostpreussen, near place where I live

It is in nice, uncleaned, untouched condition. Leather is in good condition. Only one rosette on the right side and no traces of rosette on the left.

Can You tell me more about this helmet? What Model is it?
Spike is possibly to unscrew and mount paradebushc. This is my second dragoner helmet in collection.

 

[Frozzer]

Some more details showing that other rosette was never been applied

 

[Frozzer]

Cocarde size is 65mm

 

[J.LeBrasseur]

Nice looking helmet, congrats, it is in great shape for an older helmet.

James

 

[Frozzer]

Nice looking helmet, congrats, it is in great shape for an older helmet.

James

Thank You James

can You help me and tell what exactly model is it? it is mod 1867 maybe?

 

[b.loree]

That is a very nice older helmet in great condition. As to model, you should consult The Kaisers Bunker website to track that down. The presence of only one larger Prussian kokarde is totally correct though as this helmet dates well before the Reich kokarde was worn. Does your wappen have screw posts? The 1867 model has long prongs soldered to it instead of posts or loops

 

[Frozzer]

That is a very nice older helmet in great condition. As to model, you should consult The Kaisers Bunker website to track that down. The presence of only one larger Prussian kokarde is totally correct though as this helmet dates well before the Reich kokarde was worn. Does your wappen have screw posts? The 1867 model has long prongs soldered to it instead of posts or loops

I was looking on Kaisers Bunker page and I am a bit confused which Type is this. Eagle is with ribbon, cocarde is 65mm. I think it could be m1867. No prongs to the eagle. All interrior screws, also on eagle and on spike are the same. Photo in attachment

 

[Sandmann]

Because it‘s a Dragoon helmet I think it could be a M1860 or M1867. There was an AKO on April 25, 1867 that Dragoons should keep the older Helmet M1860 instead of M1867.

Modifications of the Pickelhaube between 1867-1870

historien-kabinett.de

 

[Frozzer]

Because it‘s a Dragoon helmet I think it could be a M1860 or M1867. There was an AKO on April 25, 1867 that Dragoons should keep the older Helmet M1860 instead of M1867.

Modifications of the Pickelhaube between 1867-1870

historien-kabinett.de

I am Reading all Your informations on time line and now I am close to think that is m1860.

 

[JohnS3rd]

Awesome find! Thanks for the pictures
Best regards
John

 

[Sandmann]

I am Reading all Your informations on time line and now I am close to think that is m1860.

I agree with you, as the helmet M1867 was only introduced for foot troops.

 

[USMC-EOD]

That thing is fabulous!

 

[Tony without Kaiser]

That is a wonderful helmet. Basically as you have discovered, there is really no change between an M1860 Dragoner right up until they were eventually converted to M1894 with M91 chinscales. What makes these old helmets so endearing to me personally, is the thick heavy robust leather shells, and those enormous chinscales. You have found an excellent example. Congratulations.

 

[CLOVIS 57]

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[argonne]

Some more details showing that other rosette was never been applied

Hi,
I like the place where you are living, Elk (Lyck) at the mazurian see plate 👍
I spent some holidays a few time in the past in Gorlo / Stare Juchy.
Helmets from those eastern countries are pretty hard to find!
Philippe

 

[LangeKerl]

Some more details showing that other rosette was never been applied

I saw this M1860 before, I think on a FB group. Great Pickelhaube!! Like I have told you on WAF, you have great items!

I have a 1868-dated Dragoner cartridge pouch and bandolier also marked to the 11th Dragoner Regiment.