Helmadler für die Pickelhaube eines Militär-Beamten

[Naprawiacz]

In all items known to me the small silver eagle is with the letters FR,and this one is with the monogram of the king's name.Maybe you have knowledge about it,who wore it? Unfortunately I can't add pictures.I don't know why? Link to comparison https://www.weitze.net/militaria/32...ckelhaube_eines_Militaer_Beamten__419032.html

 

[Sandmann]

I think the answer you are looking for can be find in the book „Uniformenkunde - Das Deutsche Heer - Friedensuniformen bei Ausbruch des Weltkrieges“.
Source of following pictures are from „Uniformenkunde - Das Deutsche Heer - Friedensuniformen bei Ausbruch des Weltkrieges“, Bd. 3 - Tafel 160-166:

 

[b.loree]

I see FR on the breasts of both the large and small eagles. To me this looks like the typical Prussian Beamte officer wappen. You probably can not post this photo because Weitze does not permit it.

 

[Naprawiacz]

I was able to upload the photos.Thank you beautifully Sandy for the info.Very faint subtitles.Musical army inspector?

 

[coert65]

Woytek, to me it looks indeed like a wappen for a Musical inspector. I enlarged Sandy's picture a bit on my computer.
I do not know much about this, but I guess there were not many around those day's.

Regards, Coert.

 

[Naprawiacz]

Coert and Sandy you guys are great! Thank you from the bottom of my heart.

 

[Sandmann]

I think it is an „Armee-Musikinspizient“. There are 2 Versions of an golden Eagle with a small silver Eagle.
The “1. Armee-Musik-Inspizient“ got a Landwehr-Eagle without banner and a small Eagle. And the „Armee-Musikinspizient“ got a Linie-Eagle with banner and small Eagle.
Sources of the photos: „Uniformenkunde - Das Deutsche Heer - Friedensuniformen bei Ausbruch des Weltkrieges“, Bd. 3 - Tafel 160, 165

 

[b.loree]

Ok now I see Royal cypher.....my old eyes failed me . That is unique and yet again, something I have never seen before.

 

[aicusv]

I notice the cypher is a plain W, could this place it it before 1888? Unlike the later models with"FR". Tried to post a photo but would not take, also could not complete my text.???

 

[Sandmann]

I have found another one at philip-militaria.com and another with „FR“ at ratisbons.com. Fittings and colors are identical on both helmets.
Maybe it was not regulated how the small Eagle should look like?

 

[Sandmann]

I just checked the Textbook of the book I got the pictures from. It was just written about a small Eagle in silver or gold, no further infos about different breastplates of it.