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[Hermit]

H: Coloured putty may have been put there but the only sure way to check things out is to take off the plate, look at the shell beneath and examine the soldered loops to see if they have been moved. This small hook arrangement on the inside between the plate loops is also weird. They look like an old bungee cords?? Original wappen/plates are held on by leather wedges put through those loops. If you want to check out what original soldered loops look like, check out our wappen section here on the forum. A support for your delicate liner is a good idea, most of us support our helmets in order to take the weight off of the visors. Leaving the helmet weight on the visors causes the thread to rot and break over time.

 

[Hermit]

I have removed the Wappen and it hasn’t been tampered with, two slits in the leather and the soldering looks good
I will post more photos when I get home

 

[Hermit]

I have removed the wappen for your perusal and judgment on whether you guys think that it has been re soldered,
Also I have inspected the interior holes and what looked to be putty was just wear from it being attached. So it appears unmolested.
Cheers kirstin

 

[Lars13]

Hi Kirstin,
The Wappen looks fine and original to me, I don't see any signs of resoldering.
The slits for the Wappen remain a mystery to me, as well as the unusual "cracking" of the black lacquer, and the unusual location for the unit marking.
My advice is to take your time and find out what exactly you have before you make any changes; wouldn't be the first time that a helmet doesn't seem to conform with the regulations and parts were changed out, only to find out later that it was all original after all.
Regards,
Lars

 

[Hermit]

Hi Kirstin,
The Wappen looks fine and original to me, I don't see any signs of resoldering.
The slits for the Wappen remain a mystery to me, as well as the unusual "cracking" of the black lacquer, and the unusual location for the unit marking.
My advice is to take your time and find out what exactly you have before you make any changes; wouldn't be the first time that a helmet doesn't seem to conform with the regulations and parts were changed out, only to find out later that it was all original after all.
Regards,
Lars

Thanks Lars for your advice

 

[Hermit]

Thanks Lars for your advice

Soz didn’t mean to put that heart

 

[Lars13]

Haha,
If you press the three dots at the bottom of your post then you can edit it

 

[KAGGR#1]

I have removed the wappen for your perusal and judgment on whether you guys think that it has been re soldered,
Also I have inspected the interior holes and what looked to be putty was just wear from it being attached. So it appears unmolested.
Cheers kirstin

The Prussian Infantry Regiments start with I R 13
because the firsts units are Garde Infantry
then Grenadier Regts 1 thru 12
Steve

 

[Hermit]

Haha,
If you press the three dots at the bottom of your post then you can edit it

Thank you good to know

 

[Kaiser Wilhelm II]

I am not sure but It looks as though you can see slits where holes of the Bavarian wappen were patched.
However this could just as easily be part of the Crazing in the leather.

 

[Hermit]

I am not sure bit It looks as though you can see slits where holes of the Bavarian wappen were patched.
However this could just as easily be part of the Crazing in the leather.

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Good spot. I’ll have a look tomorrow when there’s better light

 

[KAGGR#1]

I am not sure bit It looks as though you can see slits where holes of the Bavarian wappen were patched.
However this could just as easily be part of the Crazing in the leather.

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Also when you have the time look at the same places on the inside of the helmet
Steve

 

[Hermit]

Also when you have the time look at the same places on the inside of the helmet
Steve

Will do

 

[b.loree]

We have a kokarde section where you can see photos of exactly what you need.

 

[Hermit]

We have a kokarde section where you can see photos of exactly what you need.

Cool thanks

 

[JohnS3rd]

Krist,
Welcome to the forum, and fantastic detailed and clear photos of your first pickelhaube. The pictures have helped the experienced members to provide you useful insights. My only recommendation is to place your helmet on something that will keep the helmet from resting on the visors, that will prevent damage to it.
Best regards,
John

 

[Hermit]

Krist,
Welcome to the forum, and fantastic detailed and clear photos of your first pickelhaube. The pictures have helped the experienced members to provide you useful insights. My only recommendation is to place your helmet on something that will keep the helmet from resting on the visors, that will prevent damage to it.
Best regards,
John

Hi and thank you for the welcome
My plan is to display this with some foam support for the liner on a wooden stand

 

[JohnS3rd]

Krist
That sounds like a good plan, but I would recommend placing cotton linen between the helmet and the styrofoam form. The chemical on the form could damage the 126 year old leather.
Best regards
John

 

[Hermit]

Krist
That sounds like a good plan, but I would recommend placing cotton linen between the helmet and the styrofoam form. The chemical on the form could damage the 126 year old leather.
Best regards
John

I was planning on using the sort of foam that goes into sofas and such like, plus like you mentioned I thought about adding an additional cotton lining for that very reason