IR 92 Totenkopf

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Isn't that the enlisted pattern skull?
 
I don't really know much about this particular regiment, but maybe a one year volunteer? Could they use both an enlisted plate and officer style fittings otherwise? Unusual also with the unlined neck guard, which suggests a lower quality or wartime shell (?). Personally, I'd like to see the back of the plate and really wouldn't consider this one (if I saw it at a show, I wouldn't buy it without a lot of Pick's members saying it was good) because it just doesn't feel right to me, but again, that's ME, it could be 100% perfect and an excellent buy.

Anyone else?

:D Ron
 
For a pre-1912 officer wappen, though, is the skull made with pierced-out eye sockets and a more three-dimensional than the other ranks' type?

The OYV type for IR 92 is not described in any of the books I have.
 
The seller says clearly that the helmet was restored: new liner, new (wrong) skull etcetera... The skull is the EM type, It would never be on an officer's helmet. This combination is impossible...
Here's a pic of a real officer's model...

Adler
 
A lot of (wasted) money for a restored peace.
Some people (mostly Americans) confuse pickelhaubes with classic cars, but in my opinion, the value does not increase with restoration, except maybe if only the original parts are used.
I always pass on a restored helmet. [-(
 
b.loree said:
Seller states clearly in the description that this a repro wappen.
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Y'know Brian, when a helmet is posted here for scrutiny, I usually don't read the description, so that's a good call on your part. However, I am glad that my 'gut feeling' about not considering it for purchase was right! :wink: Another reason to look at the backs of wappen.

I did finally look at the description of this and other helmets he's selling. Good descriptions, but is it me or do they seem to be more altered, than restored, helmets? I mean, really, put the Kuerassier spike back on the Kuerassier helmet from the JzP.

:D Ron
 
Spiker said:
A lot of (wasted) money for a restored peace.
Some people (mostly Americans) confuse pickelhaubes with classic cars, but in my opinion, the value does not increase with restoration, except maybe if only the original parts are used.
I always pass on a restored helmet. [-(
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Agreed. A totally trashed helmet? Yes, restore it, but don't expect it to be viewed as being as valuable as one in original condition (or more valuable!). A little crazing? Leave it! Original parts are also best. However, I have no problem with using a replacement chin-strap or cockades until originals can be found, just tell people the truth when selling, as this seller has.

However, with Americans, I think it's a societal thing. If you look at the US in general, there is not enough appreciation for 'older things', be they cars in as found condition, buildings, people, helmets or what have you. Even the idea of architectural 'historic preservation' is different here than in, for instance, England, where the original is valued over the 'renovated' or 'restored' (which means torn out, rebuilt, replaced) as many in the US prefer. We have a very youth oriented, 'I like new stuff', society here. Advantages and disadvantages in it.

:D Ron
 
poniatowski said:
However, with Americans, I think it's a societal thing. If you look at the US in general, there is not enough appreciation for 'older things', be they cars in as found condition, buildings, people, helmets or what have you. Even the idea of architectural 'historic preservation' is different here than in, for instance, England, where the original is valued over the 'renovated' or 'restored' (which means torn out, rebuilt, replaced) as many in the US prefer. We have a very youth oriented, 'I like new stuff', society here. Advantages and disadvantages in it.

:D Ron
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You are spot on Ron, cause when I zap thru TV land, on BBC it’s always about antiques, on National geo. or Discovery, someone is rebuilding a car and on Belgian TV, there’s a cooking program. :D
 
As an American I use to live in a non-renovated home and drive a non-restored car, but then I got a job. :D
 
aicusv said:
As an American I use to live in a non-renovated home and drive a non-restored car, but then I got a job. :D
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LOL, yes a job is good! (especially in THIS hobby!). We lived in an 1870's home for a while, which was the third built in town. We tried to keep as much original as possible and when my ex tried to sell it, people called it 'run down', which it wasn't. (eye roll)

:D ROn
 
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