Kettle Drummer 1 LK R 1
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KAGGR#1
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Dennis
Thanks so much for your feedback.
The great thing about this back & fourth is that
it makes us think and do research.
You got me to thinking on the 1 L K R 1
So I hit the reference books.
Here is what threw me with the photo.
I was not thinking about how old the regiment was.
The drum cover that we see in the photo was the 1st old model.
They had a drum cover dating back to 1816.
The new model was given in 1903.
The helmet plate change was 1902
along with the "new " saddle blanket.
So I have attached an artist color postcard of the new cover. circa 1903
Also color plates with the 1816 cover
and the 1903 covers
Parade and Dienst which the pattern is like the
saddle blanket and pistol flaps
My first photo posted would be before 1902 .
Steve
Khukri
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Leib instead of Lieb.
Khukri
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Brustschild: GdC: 1912. Leib-Kürassier-Regiment: 1896. Kürassier Regt "Königin" (Pommersches) Nr.2: 1895. Commemorating the 150th anniversary of the Battle of Hohenfriedberg. 4th June 1745.
KAGGR#1
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from a German Military Music reference
Steve
Khukri
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Leib Kürassier is correct. Not Cuirassier (French). And "Lieb" means "lovely"... Probably a translation of a translation. This is the bad result. Leib as in Regiment or Sub-unit [Komp, Esk] meaning: a unit where members of Ruling Family serve or have served.
KAGGR#1
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I think that some of the old unit rings on the Kurassiere Regts. were stamped " C "
Steve
The 1 L K R 1 is the only cavalry regiment with two Standarte. #1 The Leib Standarte and # 2 The Regiment Standarte. Both were
brought out of Russia. I was able to get photos while they were still here in the USA.
The unit ring from the pole of the Standarte for the regiment Standarte is stamped " 1. C. R. "
For the German flags the pole & unit rings were not replaced.
Only the flags. This one was replaced in 1906
Steve
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Since we did the regiment Standarte of 1 L K R 1
Here is the Leib Standarte of 1 L K R 1
The only cavalry regiment that had 2 flags
Both flags were taken by the Russians at the end of WWII
All of the flags of the 3rd Reich and the Imperial Army
were trooped in the Moscow Victory Parade.
When the Soviet Union fell some of the flags
were brought back to the USA
From there they were sold to private collectors
The new flag of the Leib Standarte was given in 1896
Shown are both sides of the 1813 Grand Cross of the Iron Cross pole top
there were only 50 + of the 1813 I C pole tops awarded to the flags
some are still in Russia
4 views of the ring
Steve
Here is the Leib Standarte of 1 L K R 1
The only cavalry regiment that had 2 flags
Both flags were taken by the Russians at the end of WWII
All of the flags of the 3rd Reich and the Imperial Army
were trooped in the Moscow Victory Parade.
When the Soviet Union fell some of the flags
were brought back to the USA
From there they were sold to private collectors
The new flag of the Leib Standarte was given in 1896
Shown are both sides of the 1813 Grand Cross of the Iron Cross pole top
there were only 50 + of the 1813 I C pole tops awarded to the flags
some are still in Russia
4 views of the ring
Steve
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While the people who put out the Kettle drum cover work did misspell the word Leib
I do not think that we can say using the term Cuirassier Regt 1 is incorrect
The Standarte ring is stamped I C R
all Standarte rings of Regts 1 to 8
are stamped with the letter C
Roman Numerals are placed in front of the letters
II C R ; III C R ; IV C R ; V C R ; VI C R ; VII C R ; VIII C R
Steve
Khukri
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Correct!
Khukri
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My Bavarian 1871 Kürassier helmet is stamped 1. C ....