M15 chinstrap

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This one looks fake to me but if it's genuine, it wasn't made for a haube since these were discontinued in 1916.
 
RON said:
This one looks fake to me but if it's genuine, it wasn't made for a haube since these were discontinued in 1916.

Hey Ron,
The M1915 Pickelhaube was manufactured as late as 1918.
Best
Gsu
 
We have discussed these before in a thread somewhere on this site, years ago.

I have several of these and believe mine are good, but others have shown some that are questionable.

Mine are all black finished on the back with markings. I have also seen one brown one finished on both sides.

Others have shown up black on the outside and unfinshed on the inside.

All with Koch markings, Otto Koch was a legit supplier of military goods.

This will be one of those items that we may never know ](*,)

James
 
Gustaf said:
Hey Ron,
The M1915 Pickelhaube was manufactured as late as 1918.
Best
Gsu

Hi Gus,
I'm not sure about the Officer models but weren't the EM/OR ones discontinued and replaced by the M1916/1918 Stahlhelm?
Unless these kept on being produced for wear only on ceremonial occasions?
 
RON said:
// I'm not sure about the Officer models but weren't the EM/OR ones discontinued and replaced by the M1916/1918 Stahlhelm? Unless these kept on being produced for wear only on ceremonial occasions?//

Ron it would have taken a year or more to manufacture enough M16 Stahlhelm. Plus, the Pickelhaube was worn with the Friedens-Uniformen (War and Peacetime uniforms) until the end of the war. Any Pickelhaube with a date after 1916, is "probably" a Friedens-Uniformen Pickelhaube. HERE is a Friedens-Uniformen Tschapka.
 
Hey Tony,
I disagree, the Pickelhaube was still worn by rear guard troops long after the steel helmet became standard in the front line trenches.
I have to say that the helmet that I have dated 1918, was originally manufactured in 1915, but the first Pickelhaube I ever owned was made in 1917 and was a stink common M1915 that had the owner's name and company written on the visor.
The number of steel helmets produced was never enought to equip all front line soldiers, and many period photos from late war show Pickelhauben and Mützen mixed in with Stahlhelmen.
Best
Gus
 
J.LeBrasseur said:
We have discussed these before in a thread somewhere on this site, years ago.

I have several of these and believe mine are good, but others have shown some that are questionable.

Mine are all black finished on the back with markings. I have also seen one brown one finished on both sides.

Others have shown up black on the outside and unfinshed on the inside.

All with Koch markings, Otto Koch was a legit supplier of military goods.

This will be one of those items that we may never know ](*,)

James

Hey James, I think this was the second thread on the forum, and was lost in the melt down of 2005.
Best
Gus
 
Gustaf said:
I disagree, the Pickelhaube was still worn by rear guard troops long after the steel helmet became standard in the front line trenches.
I have to say that the helmet that I have dated 1918, was originally manufactured in 1915, but the first Pickelhaube I ever owned was made in 1917 and was a stink common M1915 that had the owner's name and company written on the visor.
The number of steel helmets produced was never enought to equip all front line soldiers, and many period photos from late war show Pickelhauben and Mützen mixed in with Stahlhelmen.

Sorry, I meant any M95 Pickelhaube with brass or silver fittings with a date after 1916 is "probably" a Friedens-Uniformen Pickelhaube. Not the M15 steel fittings Pickelhaube. And you are correct, Pickelhaubes were still be worn in rear areas right up to the end.
 
Guys, it sounds obvious that Pickelhaubes were still being WORN after 1916, in the rear units or during ceremonies, but were these still being MANUFACTURED past that date? I'm talking about the M15 models with all-steel fittings...
 
RON said:
Guys, it sounds obvious that Pickelhaubes were still being WORN after 1916, in the rear units or during ceremonies, but were these still being MANUFACTURED past that date? I'm talking about the M15 models with all-steel fittings...
Yes Ron,
I had an example of a stink common M1915 that was manufactured in 1917.
Best
Gus
 
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