Prussian Set M1867 1.K and Kürass 4.K

[Khukri]

This is my latest:

I'd like to show you some pics of this set and its markings/stamps.

1. The set:



2.M1867:









The liner:




The frontvizor rim ! Who could identify this marking ?




2. Kürasse:
Left side markings/stamps







Marking on the inside of the Brüstpantser (BP): (Beschussdelle-proofshot ???):




Innerside of BP (low):




Innerside of BP (lower rim): a "P" and a ? crowned ? "A" or an "A" and a (childs)head on it.




Frontside BP: High on right shoulder:




Rückenpantser (RP) Right shoulder: outer: unitmarkings and ?number? year ? 4.K 3.E 85 or 95




Rückenpantser (RP) Right shoulder: inner: unitmarkings and ?number?
Crowned FW 3.E 67

 

[Khukri]

Sorry: .... mistake !
Right shoulder:
The last two pics: the marking "Crowned FW" with 3. E 67 are at the outerside of the shoulderstrap attachment.

Just the other way round !
Hope the pics and questions are OK ?

Regards,

Khukri
Belgium

 

[reservist1]

Khukri: Very nice cuirassier set, thank you for sharing the pohotographs.

The marking on the front visor of your helmet is "CLEMEN".

Here is the same marking on the front visor of a Model 1895 infantry helmet.

Reservist1

 

[Khukri]

Thank you for your pic !

I'll try and trace Clemen.

Khukri

 

[reservist1]

Kukri:

The company was Hermann Clemen located in Elberfeld. The firm was a well known manufacturer of helmets.

Reservist1

 

[Tony without Kaiser]

WoW!! What a great set! :love10: :love10: :love10:

4.K 3.E 85 would be Kürassier Regt Nr. 4, 3rd squadron, 85 is the Quartermaster inventory control number. Congratulations!

 

[joerookery]

Nice Set! We have a list with makers and a couple of more Clemen examples at
http://www.pickelhauben.net/articles/Helmet_Makers.htm

 

[Khukri]

Thank you,

Yes : the marking CLEMEN is in the list !

http://www.pickelhauben.net/articles/Helmet_Makers.htm

Hermann CLEMEN, ELBERFELD (WUPPERTAL)
Was making stuff for weapons as well (P0-08 etc)

What does: Issue PB 24 mean (Is this the Bekleidungs Ambt???)

Thx,
Khukri
Belgium

 

[reservist1]

What does: Issue PB 24 mean (Is this the Bekleidungs Ambt???)

Khukri: The notation "Issue PB 24" in the list of manufacturers means that the illustrated marking is on an issue helmet marked to Pioneer Battalion 24.

Reservist1

 

[Khukri]

OK ! I'm finding my trail in this lists !
Great !
Thx for the help !

 

[KAGGR 1870]

Hello
I think the wappen is not the good model.
You have M.71 infanterie wappen with the three tails feathers (tail base)
The regular wappen is M.62 without this feathers.
regards

 

[Khukri]

So this is not a Kürassier Wappen ?
What would be the correct size then ?
Thank you !

 

[KAGGR 1870]

Hello
Sorry for this long delay
The kuirassier wappen M.62 have the same size like your M71
See my pic
Regards