Russian pikelhaube

Sergei1877

Sergei1877

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It looks like the original. In the reign of Alexander II

http://www.cafr.ebay.ca/itm/Russian-19-century-pickelhaube-helmet-elmetto-casque-/201537541733?hash=item2eec92d665:g:~BAAAOSwYlJW3wWG" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
 
Mine comes up as $119.50 US. It's common in Europe to use a comma rather than decimal point to separate cents. Was that the confusion? Or were you being your usual wise guy self there Gus? :wink:

Other than that, I don't know much about these helmets (for all I know it could be a theatrical copy, although the liner says it's not), but I like the plate. Even for the condition its in the price seems very low. $60 shipping, from Russia. 100% positive feedback for the seller too.

:D Ron
 
I am aware of the use of a comma for a decimal, but the price did not look right, and I often worry about ebay sellers using that to scam a buyer, Ebay.ca should be Canada, and I can accept it being in French, but I do not recall the Canadians using a comma for a decimal.
 
OK, I logged on to Canadian ebay and found the French version and they do use the comma for the decimal, how do Canadians get anything done in their country if nothing is standardized?
 
My gut feeling on these Russian helmets is the same as the Russian Adrian helmet - but it hoping it is real and pay what you'd pay for a decent reproduction. The Russian Adrian for example is among the rarest WWI Model 1915 "Adrian" pattern helmets - maybe second only to the ones with a Greek badge - yet I've seen dozens of these helmets. There is always one or two at Show of Shows (SOS) and usually another one or two (from different sellers) at MAX. I've seen these for sale in Canada, in London, in Paris, etc. For rare helmets the Russian Adrian is everywhere... and the reason is most are fakes. Someone must have churned out badges like crazy in the 1980s/90s. Even the major helmet collectors that have one - and each says, "mine is real" - will have the other collectors saying, "I'm not so sure."

The same is sadly true of the Russian spike helmets. I see Russian spikes helmets offered on two different forums, there was one at SOS and I've seen one again in London, Paris, Toronto, etc. I mean did the British and French armies bring back helmets by the boat load from the Crimea or what? Somehow these things managed to survive in Russia through the Russian Revolution, the Russian Civil War, the famines, World War II, the Cold War and now are offered with disturbing regularity. I'm sorry but I wouldn't buy any of these as real for those reasons. The fakes are just too good, there is little documentation on these and we have few examples that are believed to be good to compare these to right now.

That's my quick take on it. The helmet may be good. I would be happy to own the example on eBay, but I'd be a buyer at $400 and would hope it was real but would accept that it was made in Russia - as in post-Soviet Russia and not Czarist Russia.


As for Canada... these videos might help you Gus - these explain Canada so well:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4g4QbpQ25LA" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFCd4ZOTVg4" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
 
Sergei1877 said:
Why do you confuse the price of the lot? . I think the price will rise
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Sergei, in the new world we use a decimal (.) between dollars and cents, in Europe many countries use a comma (,), but this is listed on an American site, and it confused me that a European standard would be used. I was not aware that Canada used both methods. The problem with one country using two standards for exchange on money is that not all money transactions have language with them and that can cause problems. In the US, if you enter $100,00 for a bid on ebay, you have bid $10,000.00.
 
Gustaf said:
Sergei1877 said:
Why do you confuse the price of the lot? . I think the price will rise
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Sergei, in the new world we use a decimal (.) between dollars and cents, in Europe many countries use a comma (,), but this is listed on an American site, and it confused me that a European standard would be used. I was not aware that Canada used both methods. The problem with one country using two standards for exchange on money is that not all money transactions have language with them and that can cause problems. In the US, if you enter $100,00 for a bid on ebay, you have bid $10,000.00.
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I'm understood, thank you
 
I was not aware that our Quebecois/Canadienne Francaise are using the comma. Certainly, they have their ways of expressing "leur difference". However, in Canada, although we are a "Metric" country, we do not use the European way of expressing "thousands" in pricing. There are no commas used when you are in Quebec looking at prices in a restaurant, store etc., only the decimal. This is universal throughout the country.
 
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