michiel
Well-known member
recently I acquiered this Sachsen Well marked UR17 EM tschapka, it was very affordable, maybe because nobody liked the chin scales that are obviously much too long.
It is marked 17U.. 1896, (witch is correct for Sachsen)
being it dated 1896 I think it should have Knopf91 instead of the older style to long chin scales. (do you agree?)
It has retained its form beautifully, and has the correct Feldzeichen.
It has much too long older style chin scales, when removed it seems the impression of earlier placed Knopf91 are to be seen,
As I have loose leather chinstrap and Knopf91 schuppenketten of the correct length (old once badly restored set, but original, see photo) I decided to buy two Knopf91 at Kpemig.de.
But as I did not check the thickness the schuppenkette don't fit, what was to be expected as on al pickelhaubes with schuppenketten on Knopf 91 the Knopf have a slightly larger (longer) size (as is wel illustrated in the french Pickelhaube book I highly recommend (Uniformes Hors serie 31 le casque a pointe), it is a very good reference work extremely dense in important information, I add some photographs to show it), but it is in French so maybe not everybody will be able to read it), it really is a fantastic reference work on Pickelhaubes enlisted man haubes.
So instead of the old restored curved schuppenkette I placed the leather strap that fits the knopf91. , looks already a lot better than with the long chin scales. (at least I think so).
for now it will do,
But if anyone has the correct Knopf91 for sale in the higher variant, let me know.
(also if you think I should have left the other chin scales let me know)
(I really like tschapka's , got quite a lot of variants, but I still miss the Bavarian version, so interested in one of those ...).
It is marked 17U.. 1896, (witch is correct for Sachsen)
being it dated 1896 I think it should have Knopf91 instead of the older style to long chin scales. (do you agree?)
It has retained its form beautifully, and has the correct Feldzeichen.
It has much too long older style chin scales, when removed it seems the impression of earlier placed Knopf91 are to be seen,
As I have loose leather chinstrap and Knopf91 schuppenketten of the correct length (old once badly restored set, but original, see photo) I decided to buy two Knopf91 at Kpemig.de.
But as I did not check the thickness the schuppenkette don't fit, what was to be expected as on al pickelhaubes with schuppenketten on Knopf 91 the Knopf have a slightly larger (longer) size (as is wel illustrated in the french Pickelhaube book I highly recommend (Uniformes Hors serie 31 le casque a pointe), it is a very good reference work extremely dense in important information, I add some photographs to show it), but it is in French so maybe not everybody will be able to read it), it really is a fantastic reference work on Pickelhaubes enlisted man haubes.
So instead of the old restored curved schuppenkette I placed the leather strap that fits the knopf91. , looks already a lot better than with the long chin scales. (at least I think so).
for now it will do,
But if anyone has the correct Knopf91 for sale in the higher variant, let me know.
(also if you think I should have left the other chin scales let me know)
(I really like tschapka's , got quite a lot of variants, but I still miss the Bavarian version, so interested in one of those ...).
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