Cloth Covered 1895 Filzhelme

[ussguppy]

Recently got this felt covered in cloth. It's a big size too.

Tony has a great page on it too with some excellent photos: https://www.kaisersbunker.com/feldgrau/helmets/fgh44.htm

It turns out that they really are all identical twins...

 

[HatEnjoyer]

Nice find! IMO, some of the coolest and most interesting pickelhauben are of the wartime ersatz variety.

 

[Zebedeus]

Well done. Its a scarce headgear and in complete and good condition.

 

[Kaiser Wilhelm II]

I really like these helmets. Very Cool piece.

 

[Khukri]

A nice helmet!

 

[Stosstrupp]

Fette beute nice find

 

[John Josef]

Very nice Congratulations

 

[Pontiac9999]

Very nice! I believe mine has a red interior. Some of these cloth covered ersatz vary in the dyed felt inside. I have seen green, blue, and red.

Adam

 

[KAGGR#1]

Recently got this felt covered in cloth. It's a big size too.

Tony has a great page on it too with some excellent photos: https://www.kaisersbunker.com/feldgrau/helmets/fgh44.htm

It turns out that they really are all identical twins...
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Very nice
Can you make out any of the Kammer issue stamps ?
Steve

 

[ussguppy]

Very nice
Can you make out any of the Kammer issue stamps ?
Steve

I can't off the naked eye, but I'm going to try some black light testing this weekend and see if I can get something from it.

 

[ussguppy]

Very nice! I believe mine has a red interior. Some of these cloth covered ersatz vary in the dyed felt inside. I have seen green, blue, and red.

Adam

I would be curious to see what red looks like...

 

[Khukri]

Recently got this felt covered in cloth. It's a big size too.

Tony has a great page on it too with some excellent photos: https://www.kaisersbunker.com/feldgrau/helmets/fgh44.htm

It turns out that they really are all identical twins...
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Could the helmet be made of cardboard? Instead of felt...Described by J-L Larcade in his Volume I and in his Uniformes magazine article...the material is called "carton bouilli", English; pressed cardboard.
-Cupro-aluminium fittings indicate that the helmet was made before April 6th 1915...Verordnung Kriegs-Ministerium-all metal fittings had to be painted grey-chemicaly treated. -The AKO came later ...21st September 1915: Stipulating that the spike had to be detachable. Bayonet style lugs.

 

[dixmude 14]

Oui, c’est du carton bouilli rouge

 

[Khukri]

Oui, c’est du carton bouilli rouge

En Français: carton bouilli ou papier-maché ??? It's the same?
-Auf Deutsch-In German Karton; "Pappe" gepresst.
And yes at the edges one can see fibres: ...paperfibres not felt...
-don't think the inner felt shell could be dyed and polished.

 

[ussguppy]

Yeah, I think you're right, it does look like cardboard. I hadn't even thought of it being so. I checked Larcade vol 1 and it appears he would suggest the same. I'll take some comparison shots with my macro lens. It does admittedly feel like felt a lot too...

 

[Khukri]

Most likely. Cardboard shell; ?? felt covered?? Or not? With cloth/canvas cover. A real nice Haube!

 

[ussguppy]

Here is Cardboard VS Felt. It is def cardboard as you can see by the macro shot. The green felt closeup is included for comparison.

 

[b.loree]

An awesome piece of History in fantastic condition.

 

[JohnS3rd]

Very nice example of a true ersatz pickelhaube! Thank you for the great photos.
Best regards
John

 

[pickelhauben]

Very nice !