Totenkopf Husaren

[CLOVIS 57]

Thierry I agree with all your comments.
The two Totenkopf you show, are you are showing replicas? Or originals?

Hello Tony,
Honestly I have no answer, I haven't handled or studied enough Colback or TK from LH in my life as a collector. The difficulty is :
---The small diversity of authentic models (enrolled, officer, Eigentum,).
---The existence of reproductions from the 20‘s and 30’s made by the Kaiserzeit who reproduced Colbacks almost identically. You can't really call them ‘fake’.
---The impossibility of accessing the reverse of TKs mounted on Colbacks that are indisputably authentic, because the folding lugs are fragile.

 

[Tony without Kaiser]

All true.

A small addition if I may? Only Eigetumsstück Leib-Husaren Totenkopf have prongs that bend inside. Kammerstück Leib-Husaren Totenkopf have prongs that do not bend and do not penetrate the Pelzmütze.

 

[KAGGR#1]

All true.

A small addition if I may? Only Eigetumsstück Leib-Husaren Totenkopf have prongs that bend inside. Kammerstück Leib-Husaren Totenkopf have prongs that do not bend and do not penetrate the Pelzmütze.

Tony
Having ever really checked out what you write
I don't mean to question you
I have 3 enlisted examples
I will now need to examine them
If the prongs don't go thru the body,
how does the skull remain attached ??
I'm a little slow here
Thanks
Steve

 

[CLOVIS 57]

I repeat that ‘Colback’ is not my ‘thing’. On the other hand, all the photos I have in my archives show folding legs visible from the inside, or M15 bridges embroidering the fur and the structure.

 

[Khukri]

I repeat that ‘Colback’ is not my ‘thing’. On the other hand, all the photos I have in my archives show folding legs visible from the inside, or M15 bridges embroidering the fur and the structure.

Indeed "douteux"..."Questionable"...Vaterlandbandeau not correct. Totenkopf not correct! Is the "cage" wicker?

 

[Tony without Kaiser]

I repeat that ‘Colback’ is not my ‘thing’. On the other hand, all the photos I have in my archives show folding legs visible from the inside, or M15 bridges embroidering the fur and the structure.

But interesting to learn yes?

Les hussards allemands et lours colback - Montant, ILhat, Jousset, p.44

 

[CLOVIS 57]

! La "cage" est-elle en osier ?

I don't know, it's a photo shown at the sale several years ago. The BA being XVII, it is often a question of recovering a colback of line and of fiddling with it in Leib-Hussard.The HR that corresponds to AK XVII is HR5.

 

[KAGGR#1]

I don't know, it's a photo shown at the sale several years ago. The BA being XVII, it is often a question of recovering a colback of line and of fiddling with it in Leib-Hussard.The HR that corresponds to AK XVII is HR5.

The banner is not the correct one for 1 L H R 1
That's the problem when they try and construct one
They find the correct banner
Steve

 

[inventia]

As a bicycle collector, I would not like to enter into speculations about which skull is original and which is not. So i decided to show mine which I exchanged with my friend in the mid-1970s as a skull emblem from SS tank !!!!. At least that's told us a neighbor who saw the SS men in WWII. The skull was found in the ground and was heavily corroded. But to the point, in the photo you can see the mounting points to the busby, two at the bottom and one at the top. In my opinion, the lower mounting on foldable plates is absurd because it would be a nightmare for the wearing busby hussar. Plates will hit him constantly in the forehead. I can believe more about the possibility of sliding 2 tongues under the fur. The top could be made of foldable plates. So looking at the skull mounts, in my opinion most of them are fakes. But as a bicycle collector, I could be veeeeery wrong :-D Bandeu i bought in early 90ties

 

[Tony without Kaiser]

As a bicycle collector, I would not like to enter into speculations about which skull is original and which is not.

Please allow me. Your dug Totenkopf is a one-look original issued pattern. Very nice.

 

[KAGGR#1]

Please allow me. Your dug Totenkopf is a one-look original issued pattern. Very nice.

Tony
The best part if correct , is the banner
We see skulls , almost never a correct banner
Steve

 

[inventia]

Tony
The best part if correct , is the banner
We see skulls , almost never a correct banner
Steve

I will make for you a better picture of bandeau

 

[inventia]

I was surprised that the band is so unic :-D The fact is that most of the presented collectors LH busby's have standard bandeau from other hussar regiments.

 

[CLOVIS 57]

I'll leave you to judge...

 

[inventia]

Please allow me. Your dug Totenkopf is a one-look original issued pattern. Very nice.

Most probabbly made by L. Ettinger from Posen. This producer covered most orders from BAV. From buckles to edged weapons and uniforms.

90 years of Ettinger - A series | part 1

This year, Ettinger proudly celebrates its 90th anniversary. Join us as we take a nostalgic journey through nine decades of our rich history.

www.ettinger.co.uk

 

[Khukri]

But interesting to learn yes?

Les hussards allemands et lours colback - Montant, ILhat, Jousset, p.44

Indeed very interesting to learn. Nice "ghost" on the seal fur. The piece of leather.

 

[KAGGR#1]

I was surprised that the band is so unic :-D The fact is that most of the presented collectors LH busby's have standard bandeau from other hussar regiments.

The banner you show is the correct style .
Tony has the best enlisted 2 L H R 2 that I have seen.
Here are my two.
Steve

 

[inventia]

Both looks great Steve. Congratulation and if its 2LH2 i am a bit "neidisch" .....To finish the tread 2 LHR leave Posen in 1901 and .... maybe on bicycles....Flucht aus Posen :-D

 

[Khukri]

As a bicycle collector, I would not like to enter into speculations about which skull is original and which is not. So i decided to show mine which I exchanged with my friend in the mid-1970s as a skull emblem from SS tank !!!!. At least that's told us a neighbor who saw the SS men in WWII. The skull was found in the ground and was heavily corroded. But to the point, in the photo you can see the mounting points to the busby, two at the bottom and one at the top. In my opinion, the lower mounting on foldable plates is absurd because it would be a nightmare for the wearing busby hussar. Plates will hit him constantly in the forehead. I can believe more about the possibility of sliding 2 tongues under the fur. The top could be made of foldable plates. So looking at the skull mounts, in my opinion most of them are fakes. But as a bicycle collector, I could be veeeeery wrong :-D Bandeu i bought in early 90ties

Yes, I like this one very much!

 

[dick roback]

Great TK photos! But not too much on TK found on schirmutze! How can we ID these TK’s? Here is mine! 2nd LH officer.