Quick question about Einjährig-Freiwilliger (One year volunteer) boards

John Josef

John Josef

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Hi everyone,

I'm drawing a blank can anyone answer a quick question about Einjährig-Freiwilliger (One year volunteer) boards.

Is the piping on their boards only twisted black and white or can it also be black, white and red. Thanks John Josef
 
John Josef said:
Hi everyone,

I'm drawing a blank can anyone answer a quick question about Einjährig-Freiwilliger (One year volunteer) boards.

Is the piping on their boards only twisted black and white or can it also be black, white and red. Thanks John Josef
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A short answer off the top of my head
from what I have seen and the straps in my collection
most all Prussian regiments
are black & white as per my G R 11 pair
Imperial troops ; See-Batl
will have 3 colors ;Black White and red
example at top left
I hope this helps
others like Hessian units red & white
Bavarian Blue & white
Saxon green & white
Mecklenburg has their colors
SteveG R 11 e.jpegSee Batl straps 2.JPG
 
KAGGR#1 said:
Not sure if I have 1 yr vol for Württemberg
but it would be their 3 colors ,
I will look
but surely a member has an example
I do have
a pair of Dragoon Regt 26 View attachment 52005
Steve
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Hi Steve, I think you may have answered my question by posting the picture of the 26. Dragoon. I believe it may be for a Einjährig-Freiwilliger not sure why else it would have that type of piping otherwise.
 
KIR145 said:
Hi,
here a color chart for one-year volunteers from the Ruhl (Die Uniformen der Deutschen Armee II )
Best regards, Jens


http://web.archive.org/web/20151112111822/http://www.uniformology.com/RUHL-15.html
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Hi Jens,

Thanks for helping to answer my question and taking the time to post the information I really appreciate it. I do have those references so shame on me, but I guess it just never stuck.

That info goes a long way in helping me to identify this board with a bit of certainty that my wife found in the bottom of the basement freezer in a bag of mothed up boards. Sadly, I had totally forgotten all about them :unsure: at least the moth eggs are long dead. (y) Its always sad to find mothed up items but I try to stop the damage as soon as possible.

I'm going to say he was an Einjährig-Freiwilliger in Ulanen-Regt Konig Wilhelm I 2. Württ Nr 20. with a possible variant.

einjahrig.jpeg
 
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John Josef said:
Hi Jens,

Thanks for helping to answer my question and taking the time to post the information I really appreciate it. I do have those references so shame on me, but I guess it just never stuck.

That info goes a long way in helping me to identify this board with a bit of certainty that my wife found in the bottom of the basement freezer in a bag of mothed up boards. Sadly, I had totally forgotten all about them :unsure: at least the moth eggs are long dead. (y) Its always sad to find mothed up items but I try to stop the damage as soon as possible.

I'm going to say he was an Einjährig-Freiwilliger in Ulanen-Regt Konig Wilhelm I 2. Württ Nr 20. with a possible variant.

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too bad about the damage
but still worth saving
I think pretty rare
Steve
 
KAGGR#1 said:
too bad about the damage
but still worth saving
I think pretty rare
Steve
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Hi Steve,
I definitely thought it was worth saving too bad the moths got to it first. :cry: Its still a pretty nice-looking board and there probably wasn't many in the unit at that rank. Thanks again
 
John Josef said:
Hi Steve,
I definitely thought it was worth saving too bad the moths got to it first. :cry: Its still a pretty nice-looking board and there probably wasn't many in the unit at that rank. Thanks again
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Epaulettes are nice to collect.
However, they have really got very expensive and need room to display
Uhlans are the few regiments where the enlisted men wore epaulettes.
Tony S. has the best collection of enlisted Uhlan epaulettes that I have seen .
I try to collect Dragoon officers epaulettes, but I don't see them offered very often.
Especially Hessian Dragoon Regt 24 with the "N "Russian cypher
Steve
 
John Josef said:
Hi Jens,

Thanks for helping to answer my question and taking the time to post the information I really appreciate it. I do have those references so shame on me, but I guess it just never stuck.

That info goes a long way in helping me to identify this board with a bit of certainty that my wife found in the bottom of the basement freezer in a bag of mothed up boards. Sadly, I had totally forgotten all about them :unsure: at least the moth eggs are long dead. (y) Its always sad to find mothed up items but I try to stop the damage as soon as possible.

I'm going to say he was an Einjährig-Freiwilliger in Ulanen-Regt Konig Wilhelm I 2. Württ Nr 20. with a possible variant.

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Hi John,
yes - unfortunately little damaged, but with the one-year-old cord also very, very rare!
And therefore good that you saved it! ;) Thanks & best regards, Jens

UR20: yellow epaulette, from 03. March 1890 crowned chiffre “W” and from 13. Nov. 1891 crowned chiffre “W” + small “I”.
KAGGR#1 said:
... I try to collect Dragoon officers epaulettes, but I don't see them offered very often.
Especially Hessian Dragoon Regt 24 with the "N "Russian cypher ...
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Steve, there are a few DR24 pieces on display in the military museum in Rastatt. ;) Best regards, Jens
 

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KIR145 said:
Hi John,
yes - unfortunately little damaged, but with the one-year-old cord also very, very rare!
And therefore good that you saved it! ;) Thanks & best regards, Jens

UR20: yellow epaulette, from 03. March 1890 crowned chiffre “W” and from 13. Nov. 1891 crowned chiffre “W” + small “I”.

Steve, there are a few DR24 pieces on display in the military museum in Rastatt. ;) Best regards, Jens
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Jens
Thanks
That D R 24 epaulette
I can't find one
Steve
 
The image above is of Baden, who were not allowed to wear their colours after the Baden Revolution of 1848/1849. The revolution was put down by Preussen and from that point Baden Troops had to wear Preussen colours of black white. All they got was their Wappen and Kokarden.
 
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John,
good question, why Baden had Prussian cord. I didn't know myself and asked in a German forum and got the following answer.
;) Best regards Jens
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Baden sowie die Thüringer, Anhaltiner und Oldenburger waren sogenannte Kontingentstruppen in der preußischen Armee mit unterschiedlich vielen zugestandenen Uniformlichen Eigenheiten.
Unteranderem Helmsterne in Thüringen, Anhalt und Oldenburg und ein eigenes Emblem in Baden sowie die Helmkokarden. Alle Offiziere dieser Staaten trugen z. B. auch die gleichen Feldbinden, Paradeschärpen und Adjutantenschärpen.
Kontingentstruppen: innerhalb eines Landes feststehende Truppenteile eines Kleinstaates unter der Befehlsführung des "Großstaates" = Preussen)
Der Ursprung dieser Strukturen stammt ja aus der Zeit der Militärkonvention zwischen Preußen und mehreren Kleinstaaten 1867 (und 1868 in einigen Fällen). Damals waren das Truppenteile bzw. das stehende Heer von autonomen Staaten, die mit Preußen verbündet waren. Also ein kleiner Truppenteil in der größeren preußischen Armee.
Bei der Militärkonvention wurde den Staaten versprochen, dass ihr Heer nach preußischem Muster ausgerüstet und strukturiert wird. Bei Vertragsschluss wurden die Herrscher quasi gefragt, was für uniformliche Besonderheiten diese weiterhin wünschen. Bei Oldenburg z. B. Kokarde, Helmstern und das Herrschermonogram auf der Schulterklappe (P und A für Infanterie und Dragoner).

***************** Translation via Deepl:
Baden as well as the Thuringians, Anhaltians and Oldenburgians were so-called contingent troops in the Prussian army with different uniform peculiarities.

These included helmet stars in Thuringia, Anhalt and Oldenburg and a separate emblem in Baden as well as helmet cockades. All officers in these states also wore the same field armbands, parade sashes and adjutant sashes, for example.

Contingent troops: troops of a small state within in a country (Deutsches Reich) under the command of the “large state” = Prussia)

The origin of these structures dates back to the time of the military convention between Prussia and several small states in 1867 (and 1868 in some cases). At that time, these were troop units or the standing army of autonomous states that were allied with Prussia. In other words, a small part of the larger Prussian army.

In the military convention, the states were promised that their armies would be equipped and structured according to the Prussian model. When the treaty was concluded, the rulers were asked what special uniform features they would like to see. In Oldenburg, for example, the cockade,
helmet star and the Sovereign's monogram on the epaulette (P and A for infantry and dragoons). ...
 
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