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Thanks Guys...I haven't removed the parts for restoration yet, but I measured the length of the 4 arms of the Cross, from the outer diameter of the spike pillar, and they are all exactly the same...@ 2 1/8 inches..I don't think I can recall having seen this pattern Kleeblatt used anywhere on a...

Have at present no photos of helm or parts...Can only say that it appears as any typical Prussian Kleeblatt Spikebase , except that all 4 arms are of equal length, when typically the ones I have knowledge of are 3 arms one length, with the 4th (which points to the front) substantially shorter...

It was not required of any maker of such insignia that they maker-stamp their pieces...Even Gold & Silver content does not seem to have been required of private-purchase items....I usually consider that an un-marked piece was actually made by one of the firm's apprentice workers, and therefore...

Thanks Brian...I have collected Helmets on & off over many years, though Prussian Orders are my primary interest, so I guess I never took the time to pay close attention to the matter....But looking at all the photos I can find, seems to me that the front arm if the Kleeblatt is shorter than the...

Don't mean to butt-in here, but have been Prussian Orders Collector for 40 yrs, & have owned several of these Crosses....If the full-size cross is of the same maker as the mini, & I believe it is, it is a private purchase item from the very outstanding Godet Firm, and was quite expensive at the...

Hello All...New to Pickelhaubes..Old to Collecting Prussian (Just an old Prussian!)...Question....Have Prussian Officer of General Staff Helm purported 1860/1880 period...No real problem EXCEPT..."Kleeblatt" spike base has 4 Equal length arms...I always believed that the forward arm was shorter...