1. Badisches Leib-Grenadier-Regt. Nr. 109

Lost Skeleton

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In his quest for a LG 109 helmet, forum member, weirdpyramid, expressed interest in seeing pictures of my specimen and requested detailed information regarding the unique Wappengreif. Rather than lose the information exchanged through the private message service the next time I purge my mailbox, I thought I would post it here for future reference.

Unfortunately, the metal has been overly polished by some cretin in the chain of custody and the furniture has lost most of its original luster. The leather is unusually pliable, and, consequently, the top is slightly sunken (a seemingly common condition for 109 officer helmets). Though far from pristine, it remains a decent, legitimate example.

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The Wappengreif with its enameled Stern zum Hausorden der Treue. Mimicking the Preußen Garde Wappenadler, the Greif has an extended wingspan unique to Regiment 109 and the helmet of Baden generals.

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Indicative, perhaps, of an economy or wartime helmet, the multi-piece star is the antithesis of Gewölbt.

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The intricacies of the star were of particular interest to weirdpyramid. The assembly is as follows:

Eight pointed silver star with applied gold Spiegelmonogramm of Markgraf Carl III, Wilhelm positioned at the diagonal points of the star.
Chased Malteserkreuz in silver with applied red enamel.
Silver Mittelmedaillon with the motto, Fidelitas, and three peaks of applied green enamel.
Gold Carl III. Wilhelm Spiegelmonogramm and ring encircling the Mittelmedaillon.

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The star is affixed to the Wappengreif with split brads, (interlocking layered tabs representing the assembly of the star layers are visible between the Greif's knee and shield). Someone had the misguided inspiration to apply glue and solder in an attempt to fix the star permanently to the Grief. Fortunately, these unsightly efforts failed.

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Lest anyone think this is electroformed, the Rückseite detail is as sharp as the sharp as the Vorderseite.

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I don't imagine for a moment this helmet represents the archetype for LG 109. This has simply been an analysis of my helmet.
 
Thank you for a nice and informative post. Very good pix! :D

PS: would it be possible to set up a "library" of Hauben based on discription like this one?
 
That's okay, I've an old General a'la Suite that some genius thought would be good with a brass, rather than silvered plate.... and removed the plating from the front. But then, I also have an undamaged, nice example too!


:D Ron
 
Some Baden Pickelhauben on Auction soon:

http://www.stauffer-auktionen.de/unsere-aktuelle-auktion/militaria-deutsche-staaten-bis-1918.html

Rgds,
Francis
 
Great post! You have been a great help Lost Skeleton! Does anyone have more pictures of 109th helmet from the stauffer-auktionen.de auction? I only get the one side view picture online.
 
Khukri said:
http://www.stauffer-auktionen.de/unsere-aktuelle-auktion/militaria-deutsche-staaten-bis-1918.html

I contacted them for pictures of the 109th Baden Officer helmet. They sent me pictures of the helmet and was very disappointed by what I saw. The helmet has some serious problems. First off the entire spike base is wrong, 4 vent holes(wrong) and it is attached with split prongs(wrong) to the helmet underneath. But the biggest flaw is the enameled house order, it is a complete fake! Bloated, rounded "FIDELITAS" type as the same with the "chanel CC's". I'm very glad i didnt just bid on this helmet without looking into it first. Dont be fooled!
 
Having seen the pictures of the Stauffer helmet, I shot a super-macro of the FIDELITAS motto of the Mittelmedaillon on my helmet's Wappen. It measures a mere 13mm across, yet the lettering is sharp. The superior quality of the enamel is also readily apparent.

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Arran said:
Please post those pics here!
It might be best for one of the moderators to give his blessing first. I don't believe Stauffer could pursue legal action for the "outing" of a big ticket item in their auction, but it isn't my call.

I think it would be best shared through private message/e-mail.
 
Arran said:
Please post those pics here!

I'd rather not post any pictures that aren't created by me or without the permission from the owner. I once did so on this forum with pictures of a active auction from ebay. I then received a verbal lashing out by the seller about how those images were HIS and COPYRIGHTED, blah blah blah. I dont want to piss people off or create forum anarchy either.
 
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