$10,000 Beginning Bid

Brian von Etzel

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I'm curious to watch the stampede on this one!

http://cgi.ebay.com/Spikehelmet-bavarian-General_W0QQitemZ280086005988QQihZ018QQcategoryZ13965QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
 
Hi Brian:

Welcome to the pickelhaubes forum. We have been fellow contributors at Wehrmacht Awards, where I post under the name "epsomgreen."

The sweatband embossed Depaheg Patent indicates the helmet body and visors are made of Vulkanfiber, a proto-plastic Ersatz material. For comparison, these are pictures of a wartime Depaheg Bavarian from my collection:

PICT0608.jpg


PICT0616.jpg


While I like the eBay helmet, it bears pointing out that very convincing electroformed general officer Wappens exist. The following example is manufactured by Der Kammerbullle:

http://www.kammerbulle.de.vu/

BayGeneral.jpg


As one can see, it would take very little to upgrade my helmet to be something it never was.

Courtesy of the eBay photos, the Wappen is secured by thin split wires, and this raises a very genuine red flag. Customarily, one would expect to see threaded fasteners secured by squared nuts. While there is a precedent for the occasional use of split brads to secure officer helmet Wappen, I would never bid on the eBay listing based solely on the information at hand.

"I tell the wearersname to the buyer !" seems unnecessarily mysterious, and, with no PayPal and no recourse, I regard this item as a true caveat emptor. It will be interesting to see if anyone nibbles at the bait.

Thanks for posting.

Chas.
 
Hey Chas,

I don't have a problem with the helmet as there are ways to tell correct general's plates from the others... and the split pins do not bother me either.. only the seller concerns me.... Herrah_de is Stauffer auction house.

I saw this when they first listed it in thier auction a few months back I checked it out..... but with the euro where it is.. plus commissions... it's just too much money (IMHO).......

Welcome Brian !

Cheers
Mark
 
mravery said:
as there are ways to tell correct general's plates from the others...
Hi Mark:

Certainly, but Stauffer Auktionhaus is not being very cooperative in that regard, are they?

Interesting that this unsold lot should be listed with U.S. eBay. It's too rich for my blood (and I still have questions).

Chas.
 
You guys certainly know your helmets and the modern goods to make them something they aren't. Great discussion, I hope to learn something here.

Your Depaheg Bavarian is stunning!
 
Brian von Etzel said:
You guys certainly know your helmets and the modern goods to make them something they aren't. Great discussion, I hope to learn something here.

Your Depaheg Bavarian is stunning!
Brian,

It's very, very nice to see you here! :D
 
Well it looks like a good example to me; the starting price being very close to the US$ equivalent of the Euro minimum bid when it was in their Autumn auction. Shame about the chip in the enamel though.

I have a number of Vulkanfibre helmets and almost all of them employ the split brad method of securing the wappen rather than the screw-post and nut method. I wonder whether this was due to a concern that the vulkanfibre could be shattered by over-enthusiastic tightening ? Just curious !

Ian.
 
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