10th Hanoverian Pioneer Battalion

Steve Nick

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For my first post on this forum. I chose a helmet almost identical to one that was previously posted by by Alan S.

I acquired this helmet many years ago. It’s always been a bit of a puzzler to me.

On the surface ,this Private Purchase (Eigentums-Helm) appears to be an Officer’s helmet given that it has an officers’ voided crown front plate, chin scales secured by rosettes, a tall (very tall, over 5 inches) spike, star studs securing the spike base to the helmet, an officers quality rear spine and an officers style silk lining and coloured red and green visor interiors.

On closer examination though, the officer’s quality spike has no “egg and dart perlring” which it should have although it does have the two parallel etched lines indicative of officer spikes. The front visor trim is of the thicker enlisted ranks variety. The kokarden are a mess, in that the Reichs kokarde is an officer’s example (two silver rings) while the Landeskorde (Prussia) has the NCO style single silver ring. The Prussian kokarde I suspect has been added/replaced at some point as it is a M91 pattern meant to have been mounted on an M91 enlisted ranks post.

Back in the 80’s the “accepted wisdom” was that a helmet exhibiting these inconsistencies was a “One Year Volunteer” because (as the thinking went) One Year Volunteers could get away with just about anything they wanted to do and if a helmet such as this one didn’t comply with the regulations for Officers and Enlisted Ranks then it must be a One Year Volunteer helmet.

The understanding of the regulations has improved considerably over the years and is laid out as concisely as possible given the very confusing regulations governing what Sr. NCO’s, One Year Volunteers and Officer Candidates were allowed to wear on Tony Schnurr’s exceptional “Kaiser’s Bunker” website.

I’ve now come to the conclusion that this piece is most likely a Fähnriche (Officer Candidate) as it displays virtually the same features as an officer’s helmet, although this one’s owner for some reason opted for the thicker Enlisted Ranks visor trim and no perlring.

Your thoughts are welcomed.
 

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Welcome to the Forum, it‘s a great first Post :bravo:
Have you find a Name or any else pencil notes inside?
 
Sandy:

Thanks for your welcome and appreciation of the post.

There are only two markings on the helmet. One is a "V3" in white ink. Done by hand. No idea what it means. Could have been done post-war.

The second is a very faint ink stamp inside the shell "53" which I assume is the makers size stamp.

No markings to indicate ownership.

Cheers:

Steve
 
Sandy:

Failed to mention that the "V3" is marked on the red rear visor lining. It's not visible in the photo.

Steve
 
Thanks for posting your great looking helmet Steve! :thumb up:

The similarities between our two helmets is very interesting: both have a thicker, enlisted style front visor trim. Both of our helmets also have no pearl ring on the neck of the spike, and both have a very tall, fixed spike with the officer double lines on the spike.

The differences between our two helmets is that mine has an enlisted style back spine with the vent on it, and yours has the officer style back spine. And your helmet has officer star retainers on the spike base, whereas mine has the domed enlisted style retainers on my spike base.

Thanks again for sharing it with us!

Best Wishes,

Alan
 
Gentlemen:

Thanks for taking the time to post a reply. I appreciate your comments.

As you know, putting these posts together takes more than a bit of time and effort so it's nice to see that someone is interested enough to respond.

Cheers:

Steve
 
Steve,
I agree with your assessment that this helmet was used by a Fähnrich.
I have a similar helmet from Saxony and my conclusion was the same as yours.
A One Year Volunteer could buy any accessories he wanted on a Pickelhaube, as could a common soldier, but they were not automatically allowed to wear officer Kokarden. Oddly, on your helmet, the Prussian Kokarde is a single ring type and the Reichs Kokarde is a twin ring type. The single ring type was used by officers on earlier models, but then started to become known as "NCO" Kokarden. That is a bit of a misnomer. This guy may have been a senior NCO who subsequently passed the officer's test and would have been allowed to carry an officer's portapee.
Just a thought.

John :bravo:
 
John:

Thanks for responding and offering your insights.

I'm not convinced that the Prussian kokarde is original. I haven't disassembled the chinscales to confirm it but, the single ring Prussian "NCO" kokarde has quite a bit of play in it relative to the Reichs kokarde which leads me to think it was meant to have been mounted on the M91 post and not the much smaller diameter officer rosette.

I'm thinking I need to track down a Prussian officers kokarde to make the helmet correct.

Cheers:

Steve
 
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