A uniform for a general Garde regiment zu Fuss for your review

[meme32]

Dear member,

A fellow collector is kindly offering me that uniform for a General.
It is a 12 button jacket and it seems to be for the Garde Regiment zu Fuss.
Would you please share your opinion on that tunic and the shoulder boards ?
It has unfortunately no tailor tags and no name.

Many thanks,

Kind regards

 

[meme32]

photos from the inside

 

[kuerassier]

I don't like the uniform. A mix of general's uniform and regimental uniform. The shoulder boards are for a general's uniform. The blue fabric on the collar is a different shade than the rest. Perhaps the collar and cuffs have been swapped.

 

[03FAHNEN]

I like it. Surely from a general to the suite. Then I will try to post some pictures with examples of real use.

It would be necessary to see the last four button holes, to see if they are identical to the others, if they are the same I would be happy with that uniform.

In fact I would love to be able to buy it.

 

[KAGGR#1]

Garde Regt zu Fuss other than 1 G R zu Fuss ?
Steve

 

[Kaisersammler]

1st Guards Regiment on foot, the embroidery is silver
2nd Guards Regiment on foot is gold

 

[KAGGR#1]

1st Guards Regiment on foot, the embroidery is silver
2nd Guards Regiment on foot is gold

Yes
I excluded the 1 G R zu Fuss
Steve

 

[kuerassier]

Generals of the foot guard regiments had 8 buttonholes and not 12. Only the special uniform for generals had 12.
The cuffs here are the wrong shape. They were not so pointed.

 

[kuerassier]

Here the right Uniform for a General of the foot guards. Prinz Eitel Friedrich and Hindenburg.

 

[03FAHNEN]

There are many examples of general's uniforms with 12 buttons.
Here are three examples.
As for the shape of the cuffs, I don't see a problem, as they vary quite a lot depending on the period.

 

[03FAHNEN]

And if we already want to see something unusual, here is a twelve-button feldgrau uniform.

 

[KAGGR#1]

There are many examples of general's uniforms with 12 buttons.
Here are three examples.
As for the shape of the cuffs, I don't see a problem, as they vary quite a lot depending on the period.

From what I think that I know is that if someone was Chef or a al suite to a regiment
they would wear the same Waffenrock as any other officer in the regiment
the difference would be with the rank of General shown only in the shoulder straps or epaulettes
Steve

 

[meme32]

Thanks a lot for your feedbacks.
As requested by 03FAHNEN and to bring more pictures in the discussion, please find below some additional pictures of the buttons area.

 

[03FAHNEN]

It can be seen that the button holes are not identical.

But for me, this is not always a problem. For I am sure that, in many cases, a colonel promoted to general would modify his previous warrior to his new rank.

In fact, one of my best general's warriors (which belonged to General Max Dennerlein) has the label with his Oberstleutnant rank from 1932.

 

[03FAHNEN]

Here we can see the model of General à la suite.

 

[Glennj]

There are many examples of general's uniforms with 12 buttons.

If I may comment on these characters.

The first is not a general with regimental uniform. He is Wirklicher Geheimer Kriegsrat Franz Ruser, a senior military intendance official with the equivalence of general officers rank.

The second is similarly not a general with regimental uniform. He is wearing the uniform of a Generaladjutant. Incidentally, he is not Wilhelm Ludwig Karl Kurt Friedrich von Tümpling but Johann Wilhelm Adam Wolf von Tümpling (1781-1871).

Regards
Glenn

 

[03FAHNEN]

Thank you very much for the clarifications.
I correct my database. Here is another image of
Tümpling - Johann Wilhelm Adam Wolf Ferdinand von Tümpling

 

[kuerassier]

Hier sehen wir das Modell von General à la suite.

Only the husar on the right is "a la suite" of a Regiment.

 

[kuerassier]

Are the shoulder boards longer than the shoulders?

 

[kuerassier]

If I may comment on these characters.

The first is not a general with regimental uniform. He is Wirklicher Geheimer Kriegsrat Franz Ruser, a senior military intendance official with the equivalence of general officers rank.

The second is similarly not a general with regimental uniform. He is wearing the uniform of a Generaladjutant. Incidentally, he is not Wilhelm Ludwig Karl Kurt Friedrich von Tümpling but Johann Wilhelm Adam Wolf von Tümpling (1781-1871).

Regards
Glenn

and the third wears not a prussian uniform.