American Pickelhaube??

snowkill

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Good Afternoon,

Recently, a friend asked me if I could find out anything about a pickelhaube that been found in his grandfather's closet after his death. How his grandfather got a hold of it is unknown. It looks to be an American pickelhaube and bears a strikingly similar appearance to one that appears in a photograph on this site:

http://www.pickelhauben.net/articles/AmericanPickelhaube.htm

The pickelhaube to which I am referring is ¾ of the way down the page in a photograph that has 2 different pickelhaubes shown, one with an “A” in one of the wappen and the other with a “1”. The pickelhaube with the “1” in the wappen is the one I am referring to. The differences between the one in the photograph and mine are as follows. The wappen of the American Eagle in mine doesn’t have arrows clutched in either talon. It only has branches (olive, I am assuming). The cruciform spike plate is identical but instead of knobs at the end of each arm, it has stars. The “kokarde” (piece that attaches the chin scales to the helmet, I believe) is also a bit different. Everything else is pretty much the same. The only markings that I have found are two words (“Kraft” and “Maker”) stamped into the back spine on the inside of the rear visor. I was wondering if anyone had any thoughts as to the authenticity of this helmet being an American pickelhaube versus a cannibalized product of several parts. My greatest concern would be the front plate b/c clearly this is an American eagle but it is not your iconic version (arrows in one talon, olive branch in the other). The chin scales appear to be genuine (utilizing a 2, 3, 2 link) and backed with a soft leather.

Any thoughts would be appreciated. Thanks.
Snowkill
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Welcome to the forum! This thing looks 100% good to go to me. I will try to have Alex take a look at this. There is almost no documentation that I am aware of on these kinds of helmets. There was supposed to be an article over the last several years in the company of military historians documents but I don't believe it ever was published -- not positive.

There are several relatively interesting parts of these. The most amazing part is that they were such small production runs. So whoever paid for that Wappen paid a huge amount for each copy. Clearly this was a labor of too much money! There seem to be so many different varieties and yours has so many German type attributes such as the rosettes. Unique spike. Do you have a picture of the side? I really would like to see a close-up of the attachment of the Chin scales. This is a nice helmet that can lead to so much research.
 
Thank you for response! I would be very interested in reading that article if it exists. I looked over on the company of military historians forum but didn't find anything as of yet but it could be that I am not looking in the right place.

Below are two side view pictures. I tried to get an inside shot of nut holding ear piece but it didn't turn out well. At first, I thought that the nuts holding the ear pieces to the helmet were either m.95 or m.15s (I got this from a photo posted by kaggr 1870 on 12/7/08) but when I looked closer they looked similar but were misshapen like they were damaged or home-made. The nuts that hold the Wappen in place look to be much like nuts used in the German version. Seems the more I find out, the more intriguing the tale becomes. You mentioned that there are many different varieties of the American version. I am curious as to how many you may have come in contact with, how they differed etc. Thanks for your help.

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Thanks for the pictures!

I don't know how many different varieties there are. There was an auction years ago where about 20 different types from one collection were sold.
The collection even included in American Tschapska. These ones differ dramatically each with I would say their own Wappen. The cost of making the small run helmets must have been astronomical. Often the only difference are the letter or number of applied to the Wappen.

Every year at SOS there are three or so. Often the condition is very nice. There is at least one collector of these from Chicago. I met this guy at SOS this year and he has hounded me to sell my two. I would be very willing but this guy wants to pay nothing.

It does not surprise me that perhaps your bolt is homemade. The spike on my 1842 type is really homemade. Is an absolutely great area of collecting that I know very little about. I have seen one and only one picture that included such a helmet. Incredibly interesting. :)
 
joerookery said:
I met this guy at SOS this year and he has hounded me to sell my two. I would be very willing but this guy wants to pay nothing.
:)
Hey Joe,
I would be willing to pay twice that amount!
Gus
 
Alex sent me the article. It was published quite a while ago volume 60 number two. it covers both North and South America. And there are a gazillion wonderful pictures! He actually breaks down some of the militia by state. He has pictures of people wearing them. He gives his thoughts about origins and production by state. Really worthwhile -- worth getting a copy -- and Alex joined this forum yesterday-kaisershutztruppen.
 
About the helmet in question - by looking at the construction of this and of those in my collection that are attributed to New York militia were made by J.C.F. Deecken of New York. One of my helmets still retained the paper tag that answered the mystery of who the manufacturers were. These helmets were considered to be more flimsy than their German made counterparts.
Hoped it helped.
Alex de Quesada
 
This is great information. I did a quick search of said Mr. Deecken and found that Capt. JCF Deecken, 5th Reg, 1st Div of NY militia resigned around July of 1875 as well as being in the business of military goods. I would enjoy reading that article if you let me know the title of the publication, I could probably track it down through nearby university library. Thanks for your help.
 
Gorgeous helmet at the start of this thread! Pictured below is my American officers' Pickelhaube dating from the 1870's/80's. Unlike most others I've seen, this one is entirely German-made, and still bears remnants of the original manufacturer's label and wearer's name label...

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The article is very helpful and well written.

Is there a chart available that shows the correct cockade colors for the various South American Pickelhauben?
 
Is the Venezuelan helmet in figure 18 shaped like a typical Prussian Pickelhaube, or is it shaped like the one seen in this link
http://www.banghaus.com/perl/antik/extern/klassische_auktion.cgi?lot=97979&pagenr=3&suchtyp=8&franchise_nr=7&auktion_nr=196&aktion=detail
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