American soldier

Zebedeus

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I recently have bought this photo of a U.S. artillery man on ebay.de
The photo was taken in the studio Boyce of Norfolk in Virginia in the late twentieth century (I think but I'm not sure)
I don't know anything about the American period and I hope any american friend can add more informations about the subject and the age of photography.
Thank very much. Giorgio
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I believe the company number affixed to the crossed canon dates it to post 1874 but I would have to look it up.
As you know the US Military was quite drastically reduced in size following the War of Northern Aggression.
Though the military begged for funding for the Indian Wars which resumed immediately following 1865, it received little. Excess military gear was used and this included small arms, canon, and uniforms (though some arms development did proceed but as an example, the Springfield "trapdoor' design used surplus muzzle loaders which were re-fitted and had their barrels sleeved all the way to 1873 when the purpose built "trapdoor" appeared).

My guess is Indian Wars era photo though I'll look it up when I get a minute.

Eric
 
My Horse Soldier books (focused on Cav) by Randy Steffen, volume III, pages 11 and 27 would seem to indicate that this soldier is wearing the "unpiped" model undress sack coat ca. 1883 ( the model 1872, 1877 were piped with round collar tabs). General Order No. 8 dated Feb., 8, 1877 specified the regiment number in the upper angle (but these are cav drawings of crossed sabers rather than crossed canon). Based on the rounded ends of the bill on the forager cap, the lowness of the peak, and the height of the band, I would say the cap is a pattern 1889 (which replaced the model 1876 -which was nearly identical to the M1872). Page 62 shows that the pattern 1892 cap resumed the greater peak height of the M1872/1877. By 1895, the style was completely different.

My updated "swag" would be post 1889 but pre-1895. This would be the extreme end of the Indian Wars (The last significant fighting was at Wounded Knee Creek in December 29, 1890). Hope that narrows it down some for you.
 
My dear Ebeeby, thank you very much for your answer.
I appreciate it very much. Now with your help I can correctly catalogue my photo.
Grazie mille, Giorgio
 
I have a last request for you, Eric.
All around the cap there is a coloured stripe. What it mean?
Is it the army's speciality coloured stripe or a rank's stripe?
Thank you. Giorgio
 
ebeeby said:
the War of Northern Aggression.

Eric

I've studied quite a bit of military history, but I'm not familiar with that war. Could you be referring to the Slaveholders Rebellion of 1861?
 
Zebedeus said:
I have a last request for you, Eric.
All around the cap there is a coloured stripe. What it mean?
Is it the army's speciality coloured stripe or a rank's stripe?
Thank you. Giorgio


I can find no mention at all of a color band. See Howell's reference, page 56 here:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/62234950/14/THE-FORAGE-CAP" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

There is mention of a black velvet band.
 
Hi Giorgio

My apologies for chiming in rather late, but it appears you have been given some good information regarding this American soldier.

A few more details I would like to add which may be of interest. Your soldier was a member of the 2nd US Artillery Regiment, we can tell that by the number 2 above the crossed cannons on his M1872 Forage Cap, this basic hat design stayed in service with the US Army with minor modifications until 1895, when we adopted a circular bodied hat with a flat crown. We cannot know his Battery letter as it is obscured by the upturn of the cap's visor.

The hats were constructed of dark blue wool, with a black painted leather visor and chinstrap. Two, small gilded brass, General Service buttons held the chinstrap in place. No branch of service piping appeared on this pattern hat, only the service branch insignia which was worn on the front of the hat designated which branch the soldier belonged to.

The 2nd US Artillery appears to have been based out of Fort McHenry Maryland during the later years of the 19th Century, with individual Batteries being assigned to different stations in an as needed situation. Perhaps this young man had his likeness taken prior to a depature for a distant post in the American West, or the Labor Riots in Central Pennsylvania in the 1880's.

Whatever the reason was for his photo to be taken he was an American Soldier, neither Northern Agressor or Southern Slave Holder. No doubt his parents and older family members would have vivid memories of the great American disaster during the years 1861-1865.

In a few days the 17th of September will come round, perhaps some of us can take pause and mourn for a moment, that 150 years ago to the day, near 23,000 Americans managed to slaughter and maim one another at the Battle of Antietam, or Sharpsburg to our Southern brothers. The single bloodiest day in American Military history.

The War's over....

Larry
 
Giorgio - Keep in mind that Maryland and Virginia are neighboring states (Maryland being not much larger than a typical Texas County) . A soldier stationed at Fort McHenry would have fairly easily traveled in Maryland and Virginia.
 
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