joerookery
Well-known member
The Boy's Defense Corps? Robert the writing is over to you -- I have no idea what it says.
Are these guys Jugendwehr?
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Joe,
I think the writing has nothing to do with the picture. Even though the scan is clear I could not decipher enought to understand a contiguous meaning, but it seems to be a literary text. It looks like a dialog between two speakers in a theater play There is not real start at the begin - the number 34 at the upper right might be a sequential number so somebody might have used a pack of cards to write or rehearse a play.
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That is a very interesting picture! The two men at the left appear to be military personnel and between the there seems to be an arrangement of real rifles. The boys are not really dressed to do hard labor and look to me like they come from good families.
I think the writing has nothing to do with the picture. Even though the scan is clear I could not decipher enought to understand a contiguous meaning, but it seems to be a literary text. It looks like a dialog between two speakers in a theater play There is not real start at the begin - the number 34 at the upper right might be a sequential number so somebody might have used a pack of cards to write or rehearse a play.
:dontknow:
That is a very interesting picture! The two men at the left appear to be military personnel and between the there seems to be an arrangement of real rifles. The boys are not really dressed to do hard labor and look to me like they come from good families.
joerookery
Well-known member
I'm glad you explained the writing -- it was driving me insane -- thank you.
I know there was a boy's Defense league but I know very little about them. I do not think I have ever seen a picture and it would make sense that these guys are from good families -- poor families could not afford it. I just don't know if these are those guys or not.
I know there was a boy's Defense league but I know very little about them. I do not think I have ever seen a picture and it would make sense that these guys are from good families -- poor families could not afford it. I just don't know if these are those guys or not.
Wyliecoyote
New member
Look at those Schutztruppe style hats the lads are wearing, is that a Colonial photo?
Geo
Geo
joerookery
Well-known member
George I wouldn't rule anything out. I don't think so. This picture was looked at before and if I remember there was something about which side of the hat was pinned up. Heck the picture could be reversed! Are these the same kind of guys? A hunting club?
To me it does not look like a normal kokarde on the side of the hats in the first picture. Maybe some special insignia. Can grab that detail a bit larger?
Here is (was) a similar picture or at least with similar dresses:
http://cgi.ebay.de/orig-Fotokarte-kolonial-Jugend_W0QQitemZ260237035785QQihZ016QQcategoryZ8998QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Here is (was) a similar picture or at least with similar dresses:
http://cgi.ebay.de/orig-Fotokarte-kolonial-Jugend_W0QQitemZ260237035785QQihZ016QQcategoryZ8998QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Wyliecoyote
New member
Ironic how he titled it: "orig. Fotokarte kolonial ? Jugend". I don't feel bad about being without a clue now!
chrispaulodale
Active member
I sometimes think ebay sellers add "colonial" to any number of photos to try to get a better price.
This doesn't look colonial at all to me, more like a hunting club as Joe said.
Cheers
Chris
This doesn't look colonial at all to me, more like a hunting club as Joe said.
Cheers
Chris
joerookery
Well-known member
And how about these guys? The armbands are reminiscent of early Landsturm but the age of most of these people... is there anything that can be learned from the weapons?
At the turn of the century, percussion muzzleloaders were nearly worthless so they might have served as dummies for exercising. I personally dont think that they are in a unit that has official military character. But boy scout-like training with a military touch was probably widespread, particularly in the better families.
Hey Joe,
I have looked very hard at the scan of the second card (the boys with the weapons) and I still can not tell for sure whose finger prints are all over the card. I can not tel for sure, but the fellow standing in the center back looks like he is holding a Werndl rifle, if so, it is an Austrian obsolete rifle that was still used in small numbers during the war by home guard and rear guard troops, this would fit witht he Austrian and German coat of arms on the sign (as well as the flags) But I could be wrong, and it could just be a side hammer shot gun. I still can not make out the motto on the buckel of the fellow to his right.
Bes twihses
Gsu
I have looked very hard at the scan of the second card (the boys with the weapons) and I still can not tell for sure whose finger prints are all over the card. I can not tel for sure, but the fellow standing in the center back looks like he is holding a Werndl rifle, if so, it is an Austrian obsolete rifle that was still used in small numbers during the war by home guard and rear guard troops, this would fit witht he Austrian and German coat of arms on the sign (as well as the flags) But I could be wrong, and it could just be a side hammer shot gun. I still can not make out the motto on the buckel of the fellow to his right.
Bes twihses
Gsu
kuerassier
Active member
No Pfadfinder, nothing colonial its Jugendwehr
