Authentication: East Asian Ersatz Pickelhaube

Seb80!

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Hey all,

I've been slowly growing my Prussian helmet collection ( 3 Pickelhaube and a 1894 Mitre cap so far) and have been on the lookout for a felt Ersatz model.
Came across the following example which caught my eye due to its apparent connection to the East Asian Detachment.

The Pickelhaube appears to be in good overall condition with the usual stains and age, the cockades seem to be original. There is one stamp inside. It reads "B.A.O. 1914" for the East Asian Uniform Depot ("Bekleidung Amt Ost-Asien"). Unfortunately no company or detachment stamps. And it does not have the usual field grey green leather trimmed edge.

My research into East Asian Pickelhauben does not bring up this particular design, and therefore would love to have any further insight if this would have been actually issued, or if the stamp is potentially a fake to increase its appeal?

As always, your input is greatly appreciated!


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Hey all,

I've been slowly growing my Prussian helmet collection ( 3 Pickelhaube and a 1894 Mitre cap so far) and have been on the lookout for a felt Ersatz model.
Came across the following example which caught my eye due to its apparent connection to the East Asian Detachment.

The Pickelhaube appears to be in good overall condition with the usual stains and age, the cockades seem to be original. There is one stamp inside. It reads "B.A.O. 1914" for the East Asian Uniform Depot ("Bekleidung Amt Ost-Asien"). Unfortunately no company or detachment stamps. And it does not have the usual field grey green leather trimmed edge.

My research into East Asian Pickelhauben does not bring up this particular design, and therefore would love to have any further insight if this would have been actually issued, or if the stamp is potentially a fake to increase its appeal?

As always, your input is greatly appreciated!


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Forgive my bluntness. There are too many red flags on this helmet.
The stamp does not match the standard stamps of the Asian Expeditionary Force units.
I don't like the leather interior due to its characteristics.
The entire body, given the type of materials used (especially the interior), appears to be a complete reproduction with the original metal parts and eagle added.
Another important clue is that the aging was artificially induced.
No chance of this being an original helmet used in China.
Zeb
 
Forgive my bluntness. There are too many red flags on this helmet.
The stamp does not match the standard stamps of the Asian Expeditionary Force units.
I don't like the leather interior due to its characteristics.
The entire body, given the type of materials used (especially the interior), appears to be a complete reproduction with the original metal parts and eagle added.
Another important clue is that the aging was artificially induced.
No chance of this being an original helmet used in China.
Zeb
Thanks Zeb, absolutely appreciate the bluntness :)

I had my reservations as the model doesn't appear in any literature to have been issued to East Asia and the fact that as an Ersatz version it is missing the leather trim. I'll give this one a miss.

Appreciate the insight!
 
this is the explanation given by the auction
Dating: 1914 Origin: Prussia. Semi-rigid skull covered with sand-colored cloth (stains, wear, and age). Eagle-shaped frieze on the front, made of bronze-colored metal with traces of gilding. The point worked in the same way, on a disk-shaped base. Two cockades. Leather chin straps also with wear and age. Stamps "1914" and "B.A.O." on the inside. Well-preserved cap made of sweatband on the inside. Prussian cockade and rank cockade still present. Probably for the expeditionary forces in China. Height 25.5 cm.
 
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