Bavarian Officer Pickelhaube

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16thIrishDivision

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Looking to purchase my first Officers haube came across this one on EBay, click on link below.

Have looked at the photo’s several times, looks like a really nice helmet only flaw/omission is there is no makers mark inside, although it is marked with the owners initials.

Overall the helmet is in great condition, however as always keen to avoid a repro at all costs (who isn’t), anyone who can help on this score - offer a positive/negative critique please feel free to comment.

http://cgi.ebay.ie/100-Original-Pic...cmd=ViewItem&pt=Militaria&hash=item2a06e15e0f
 
The Helmet is actually leather not fibre, see Google translation below.

I think I understand your reasoning, at first glance and without the translation you would be forgiven for saying the interior is fibre looks shiney.

However its leather, I would have thought it would have had a more worn look given perspiration and age.

The interior leather looks in almost new condition for 100 years, probably just my suspicious/questioning mind reading too much into it.

If Kaisersbunker says its OK that’s good enough for me.




You are bidding on a complete and all parts intact, original spiked helmet guarantees a Bavarian officer from the period around 1910.

Body of black leather with gold-colored Fittings. Large shield. High fluted, removable top sheet on the cross with
Star screws.

Width slightly arched shed chain rosette buttons.

Reichskokarde right Landeskokarde and left.

Hinterschiene. Umbrellas colored background in green and red. OffiziersmäßigesFully lined with reddish Seidenrips.

Brown leather sweatband. In the body of carrier names.

The Pickelhaube is very well preserved with really low age and wear.
 
As the owner of three helmets made of Vulkanfiber (two of Depaheg manufacture), there is absolutely no question in my mind the eBay Bayern is, likewise, Vulkanfiber.

It's never a bad thing for the buyer to know more than the seller.

Chas
 
Hi thanks for your reply, so it is a fiber helmet.

Do you think the seller got the age 1910 wrong too.

Given that it is made of fiber, what would you estimate 'year of make' to be?

The shape of the shell looks pre-war, however given that its fiber would this make it a wartime or maybe a 1913 helmet.

I'm not sure, given you own 3 of them maybe you might know.
 
I think the shape looks high because of the camera lens. You'll notice that it looks as if the camera were held very close to the helmet, so it's kind of fish-eyed.
How's your bidding going? It looks like a nice helmet to me too.

:D Ron
 
Thanks for all the replies. Does anyone know whether it's an Infantry, Cavalry or Artillery Officers helmet?

Found this piece on Kaisersbunker:

Cavalry & Artillery = curved chinscales

Infantry = flat chinscale

Please feel free to add any comments.
 
Thomas, it all depends on if you believe those are rounded or flat scales. Often it is very discernable, but sometimes, they are "half & half" like these one. So what do you want it to be?

Don't forget that on 20 February 1914 all Bayern officer Pickelhaube (supposedly) adopted rounded mounted-troop pattern chinscales. I say that, as it is common to find that post 1914 no-vines Wappen with flat chinscales, which would be Infantry or Foot Artillery.

So my example, could be cavalry, Artillery, or Infantry after 1914.

But I like cavalry, so to me it is cavalry. :greentank:

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