Bavarian Pickelhaube

[2IRKP]

Hello,

I would like to show you my latest find. A Bavarian helmet from 1912, which I have been looking for a while.

I would appreciate your opinion on this piece, also on the unit markings.

Regards
Malte

 

[2IRKP]

more pictures

 

[Amybellars]

Nice original helmet

 

[Sandmann]

Congratulations Malte, to your latest addition to your collection

 

[Khukri]

A nice addition!

 

[coert65]

Very nice helmet!

Congratulations, Coert.

 

[Peter B]

Great helmet

 

[argonne]

Just wondering about the stud at the top ob the back ventilation spine...Never saw that before....
Do you see other holes in the shell, behind the bavarian Wappen? I mean to see one...
Philippe

 

[2IRKP]

Thank you very much for the congratulations, I'm pleased that you also like the Pickelhaube

 

[2IRKP]

Just wondering about the stud at the top ob the back ventilation spine...Never saw that before....
Do you see other holes in the shell, behind the bavarian Wappen? I mean to see one...
Philippe

That's an interesting point, to be honest I hadn't noticed it until now. I'll take a few more photos later.

 

[2IRKP]

Here are more photos from the inside. Behind the bavarian Wappen, I don't see any other holes, except for one but that's damage. This goes through the Wappen, the shell and the inner lining. I have marked it with a red arrow on the photos.

 

[2IRKP]

It looks as if the back vantilation spine cannot be fully opened as normal. But I'm no expert, I'm still at the beginning of collecting ...


Open for only a little air: Picture 1

Closed: Pictures 2,3,4

 

[Steve Nick]

That's very odd. I've never seen that on a M95 rear spine, especially unusual on an issued Kammer marked helmet.

You might expect something like this on a private purchase piece...

 

[pickelhauben]

I am pretty sure that vent spilt pin was a post war add on.
The vent hole goes through to the shell and the novice collector thought it was missing a split pin so he added one.

 

[Amybellars]

Just wondering about the stud at the top ob the back ventilation spine...Never saw that before....
Do you see other holes in the shell, behind the bavarian Wappen? I mean to see one...
Philippe

I miss that, sharp eye

 

[John Josef]

I am pretty sure that vent spilt pin was a post war add on.
The vent hole goes through to the shell and the novice collector thought it was missing a split pin so he added one.

Or maybe it became lose over time and would not still in a closed position and the owner became tired of the elements creeping in.

Lot of possibilities

 

[2IRKP]

Thank you all for your help. We can only guess when the vent split pin was installed, but that is not a problem for me even if it happened after the war

Can someone please help me with the troop stamp? Could it be the II Bavarian I.R. Kronprinz?

 

[John Josef]

Could you please let me know exactly what you are seeing? I'm having a hard time making out the stampings.

 

[2IRKP]

Of Cource but unfortunately I'm not entirely sure either. I have tried to draw it.
I can't see if there are dots in between. The leather between the letters and numbers has shrunk too much for that.
My idea was that the I of infantry is a bit too close to the II. Or could it be third regiment?

 

[ussguppy]

I am pretty sure that vent spilt pin was a post war add on.
The vent hole goes through to the shell and the novice collector thought it was missing a split pin so he added one.

I may suggest that it seems like it is of the same era. Maybe a stretch, but I used to modify my military uniforms and armor to better fit my situation (probably against regs...). It could be that the person wearing this wanted extra ventilation (I think I see extra vent holes) and modified it.

Assuming that's not the case, I would think you're right.