BRITISH DRAGOON HELMET COLLECTION #7

David
To be 100% correct
I will check my reference to get for you
the correct 5 regiments that were allowed the
" Waterloo " banner
Steve
Hi Steve,

I your helmet with the “Waterloo” honor propelled me into my own research into Imperial German regiments that bore some form of the “Waterloo” honor to their helmet's plates either alone or in conjunction with other battle honors, generally “Peninsular” … this list is what I came up with:

Fusilier Regt General Feldmarschall Prinz Albrecht von Preussen (Hannoversches) Nr. 73
Hannoversches Inf. Regt. Nr. 74
Hannoversches Inf. Regt. Nr. 77
Inf. Regt. Herzog Friedrich Wilhelm von Braunschweig (Ostfriesisches) Nr. 78
Hannoversches Inf. Regt. Nr. 164
Hannoversches Inf. Regt. Nr. 165
Hannoversches Jager Batl. Nr. 10
Dragoner Regt. König Carl I von Rumanien (Hannoversches) Nr. 9
Hannoversches Dragoner Regt. Nr. 16
Husaren Regt. Konigin Wilhelmina der Niederlande (Hannoversches) Nr.15
Konigs Ulanen Regt. (Hannoversches) Nr. 13
Hannoversches Ulanen Regt Nr.14
Feldartill. Regt von Scharnhorst (Hannoversches) Nr.10
Niedersachsisches Feldartill. Regt. Nr. 46
Hannoversches Pionier Batl. Nr. 10

My reference source for this list is the book "THE GERMAN ARMY, 1914" by Didier Lanine, copyright 1984.

Cheers,

David
 
David,

I have posted this picture before of my Great Grandfather who served in the 5th Dragoon Guards, but now you have me wondering about the epaulettes in the picture. He also has some sort of shoulder "edging" for lack of a batter term. Hard to tell exactly what it is as it looks like they did a sort of pastel work on the photo - maybe chain mail? Also in your colour plate he should have had the green collar and epaulettes with yellow piping. Was he maybe in some sort of special position, hence what almost looks like chain mail or just a different dress uniform with the chain mail?

Thanks and you do truly have an amazing collection.

Cheers.

Peter
 

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I don't yet have a Pickelhaube with the Waterloo bandeau but I do have a sword from "Feldartill. Regt von Scharnhorst (Hannoversches) Nr.10".

One day I would love to have the matching Artillery Pickelhaube to go with the sword.

Especially since I served 33 years in the Royal Regiment of Canadian Artillery.

UBIQUE
 

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Hi David,
The Bekleidungsordnung from 1903 confirms your list, and also mentions Husaren Regiment 17.
Regards,
Lars
Hello Lars,

Thank you for your confirmation of my list of regiments who were entitle to the battle honor "Waterloo" displayed on their helmets and for noting my omission of Husaren Regiment Nr. 17. I will add it to my list!

As always, kindest regards,

David
 
David
To be 100% correct
I will check my reference to get for you
the correct 5 regiments that were allowed the
" Waterloo " banner
Steve
David
The following Prussian Infantry regiments carry the "Waterloo "
battle honor on their spiked helmet front plates .
I R 74
I R 77
I R 78
I R 164
I R 165
Regiment 73 has Peninsula - Waterloo
I R 87 La Bella Alliance
I R 88 Mesa de Ibor- La Bella Alliance - Medellin
there are others that I could forget
Jager Batl 10 has battle honors
Dragoon Regts 9
D R 16 Waterloo
H R 15 & H R 17
Uhlan Regts 13 & 14
several of the artillery regiments
IMO that is what makes the German helmets so much fun to collect
Steve
 
Hi Steve,

I your helmet with the “Waterloo” honor propelled me into my own research into Imperial German regiments that bore some form of the “Waterloo” honor to their helmet's plates either alone or in conjunction with other battle honors, generally “Peninsular” … this list is what I came up with:

Fusilier Regt General Feldmarschall Prinz Albrecht von Preussen (Hannoversches) Nr. 73
Hannoversches Inf. Regt. Nr. 74
Hannoversches Inf. Regt. Nr. 77
Inf. Regt. Herzog Friedrich Wilhelm von Braunschweig (Ostfriesisches) Nr. 78
Hannoversches Inf. Regt. Nr. 164
Hannoversches Inf. Regt. Nr. 165
Hannoversches Jager Batl. Nr. 10
Dragoner Regt. König Carl I von Rumanien (Hannoversches) Nr. 9
Hannoversches Dragoner Regt. Nr. 16
Husaren Regt. Konigin Wilhelmina der Niederlande (Hannoversches) Nr.15
Konigs Ulanen Regt. (Hannoversches) Nr. 13
Hannoversches Ulanen Regt Nr.14
Feldartill. Regt von Scharnhorst (Hannoversches) Nr.10
Niedersachsisches Feldartill. Regt. Nr. 46
Hannoversches Pionier Batl. Nr. 10

My reference source for this list is the book "THE GERMAN ARMY, 1914" by Didier Lanine, copyright 1984.

Cheers,

David
David
Very good
From memory I had forgot Pioneer Batl 10
Not sure why
as here are my P B 10 helmets
SteveP B 10 X 3.JPG
 
David,

I have posted this picture before of my Great Grandfather who served in the 5th Dragoon Guards, but now you have me wondering about the epaulettes in the picture. He also has some sort of shoulder "edging" for lack of a batter term. Hard to tell exactly what it is as it looks like they did a sort of pastel work on the photo - maybe chain mail? Also in your colour plate he should have had the green collar and epaulettes with yellow piping. Was he maybe in some sort of special position, hence what almost looks like chain mail or just a different dress uniform with the chain mail?

Thanks and you do truly have an amazing collection.

Cheers.

Peter
Hello Peter,

It is an interesting picture of your great-grand father. From the image it is difficult if not impossible to attribute the uniform to any particular regiments. I would suggest that a great deal of artistic license was taken in creating the image, it appears to have had a great deal of hand work done. That said, the uniform could be the British army's blue serge uniform of the period with omission of the regiments collar badges and in which case the collar would be the same blue as the body of the jacket and not the colored collar displayed in full dress... I would think that the absents of collar badges is due to the artist omission. As for the chainmail, again, they appear to be somewhat stylized by the artist and are not quite the correct shape but appropriate to the blue serge uniform... see attachments below...

Cheers,

David


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Probably a 1960's image of an officer of the 5th DG but gives you an idea of the blue serge uniform and chainmail shoulder scales.

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Chainmail shoulder scales, for shape, these to a Captain of cavalry, other ranks would be devoid of the rank pips.s-l400shoulder.jpg
Chainmail shoulder scales... would have a regimental metal shoulder title just before the chainmail widens to form the diamond shape.

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How the chainmail shoulder scale appears when properly fitted to the tunic... in this case to an offer to the King's Own Norfolk Imperial Yeomanry.
 
David
Very good
From memory I had forgot Pioneer Batl 10
Not sure why
as here are my P B 10 helmets
SteveView attachment 33124
Steve, once again... WOW!!! Just marvelous, these are gorgeous helmets... absolutely amazing!!! If I am recognizing the helmets correctly, left to right, an other-ranks helmet, an officers' helmet and a reserve officers' helmet? Would this battalion also have worn a "parade bush" or horsehair or Yak hair plume? Are the musician wings behind the helmets also to Pionier Battalion Nr. 10?

Cheers,

David
 
Steve, now these are truly remarkable hussar Busby's! They look to be in absolutely in mint condition! The "death's head" very reminiscent of the British 17th Lances who from their very early days (pre-American Revolutionary War) use the skull and crossbones in various forms as their regimental badge. What type of fur are these busbies made of? The plumes are, I think I recognize one as egret feathers, what is the other more hair-like plume made of? I feel like I need to make a road trip to your location to marvel over your stunning collection!!!!

Cheers,

David
 
The subject of this post, number 7, is a brief history of the Essex Yeomanry, through the end of World War One and an associated 1871 pattern officer’s Essex Regiment full dress dragoon helmet from my dragoon helmet collection owned by Major Andrew Roddick, acing second-in-command of the Essex Yeomanry killed-in-action at Frezenberg Ridge, Ypres, Belgium, on 13 May 1915.

The Essex Yeomanry was a reserve unit of the British Army that originated in 1797 as local yeomanry cavalry troops in Essex. Reformed after the experience gained in the Second Boer War, it saw active service as cavalry in World War One and as artillery in World War Two. Its lineage is maintained by 36 (Essex Yeomanry) Signal Squadron, part of 71 (Yeomanry) Royal Signals regiment, Royal Corps of Signals.
After Britain was drawn into the French Revolutionary wars the government of prime minister William Pitt, the younger, proposed on 14 March 1794 that the counties should form corps of yeomanry cavalry that could be called on by the King to defend the country against invasion or by the Lord Lieutenant to subdue any civil disorder within the county. Prominent landowners came forward to recruit the new force. The first troop of yeomanry in Essex was formed in 1797 by John Conyers of Copped Hall near Epping. The 2nd Troop was recruited in the Chelmsford district in February 1798 by William Tufnell of Langley’s at Great Waltham and the 3rd Troop was raised in March by John Archer-Houblon of Great Hallingbury By the end of May that year there were 15 Troops across Essex, with an establishment of 640 men.

In 1803, when the short-lived Peace of Amiens broke down and the Napoleonic Wars began, there was a resurgence in recruiting for the Yeomanry, and by December that year there were 23 Troops in Essex, with a strength of 1251 men. The largest was the 5th Troop raised at Harlow by Montagu Burgoyne, which had 160 men on its establishment. By 1813 the threat from France had disappeared and the Yeomanry were in decline. The number of troops in Essex had fallen to 12. The government suggested that the independent troops should be regimented, and in February seven of the Essex troops became the 1st Essex Yeomanry Cavalry under the command of Lieutenant Colonel Archer-Houblon. The remaining Troops continued as parts of independent units: 1st Squadron of Essex Yeomanry Cavalry (Captain Conyers), Essex Union Legion Cavalry (Lt-Col Burgoyne), Havering Yeomanry Cavalry (Major Crosse), 1st East Essex Cavalry (Captain Bawtree).

After the Battle of Waterloo, the Yeomanry were kept in being in case of civil disorder, but there was little unrest in Essex and by 1827 only four Troops remained in the county, with a strength of just 120. When Government support for the Yeomanry was withdrawn in 1828 the Tufnell Troop was the last to be disbanded. However, just two years later a wave of unrest swept the country and the government restored Yeomanry pay for drills and periods of service in aid of the civil power. George Palmer of Nazeing Park raised a new Troop known as the West Essex Corps of Yeomanry Cavalry, whose primary purpose was to protect the Waltham Abbey Royal Gunpowder Mill and the Royal Small Arms Factory at Enfield Lock.. From 1838 to 1843 Lt-Col Palmer had to bear the costs of the unit himself. It eventually grew to five Troops as the West Essex Regiment of Yeomanry Cavalry: A Troop (Captain Jessopp) at Waltham Abbey, B Troop (Major J.W.P. Watlington) at Harlow, C Troop (Captain the Hon Francis Petre) from the estates of Lord Petre, D Troop (Light Artillery) (Captain S. Bolton Edenborough of Thrift Hall) at Waltham Abbey, E Troop (Light Artillery).

Lieutenant-Col Palmer retired from the command in 1868 and was followed by a series of commanding officers in quick succession. In 1871 the declining unit reverted to its old title of Essex Yeomanry Cavalry. The government ordered the disbandment of the artillery troops in 1876, and when there were only 46 men on parade in September that year it ordered Lieutenant Colonel T. Duff Cater, to wind up the whole unit and It was disbanded on 31 March 1877. Yeomanry activity in the county did not entirely disappear, Captain Richard Colvin raised an Essex Troop of the Loyal Suffolk Hussars in 1889.
Following a string of defeats during “Black Week” in early December 1899, the British government realized that it would need more troops to re-enforce the regular army to fight the Second Boer War. On 13 December, the decision to allow volunteer forces to serve in South Africa was made, and a Royal Warrant was issued on 24 December. This officially created the Imperial Yeomanry The force was organized as county service companies of approximately 115 men each who signed up for one year service, and volunteers from the Yeomanry and civilians quickly filled the new force, which was equipped to operate as mounted infantry. The Loyal Suffolk Hussars raised the 43rd and 44th (Suffolk) Companies, including volunteers from the Essex Troop. These two companies, which landed in South Africa on 23 February and 28 March respectively, served in 12th Battalion, Imperial Yeomanry. In addition, Lieutenant Colonel Colvin of the Essex Troop commanded the 20th (Rough Rider) Battalion, Imperial Yeomanry, which was raised on 17 March 1900 in the City of London and landed in South Africa on 3 May. The First Contingent of the Imperial Yeomanry completed their year's term of service in 1901, and Lt-Col Colvin was Mentioned in Dispatches and awarded a Champion of the Bath.

The Imperial Yeomanry concept was considered a success and before the war ended the existing Yeomanry regiments at home were converted into Imperial Yeomanry, and new regiments raised, including the Essex Imperial Yeomanry. The Lord Lieutenant, the Earl of Warwick, who became the unit's Honorary Colonel, appointed Lt-Col Colvin to raise and command the new regiment. Colvin arranged the squadrons on the basis of fox hunts in the county, giving the following organization: Regimental Headquarters (Major John Patterson, DSO, as adjutant) at 17 Sir Isaac's Walk, Colchester, A Squadron (Major Henry Lermitte, retired captain in the Royal Scots Fusiliers) at Colchester, with detachments at High Street, Harwick, Marine Hall, Old Pier Street, Walton-on-the-Naze, Ardliegh and Clacton-on-Sea (No 4 Troop at Warwick Castle Hotel, drill hall at Osborne Hotel)– from the Essex and Suffolk Hunt, B Squadron (Major Edmund Deacon, retired Lieutenant in the 1st Kings Dragoon Guards at Drill Hall, Victoria Street, Braintree, with detachments at Queen's Hall, 47 New Street, Halstead, Chelmsford and Tiptree – from the East Essex Hunt, C Squadron (Major Leonard Pelly, former lieutenant in the 20th (Rough Riders) Bn, IY) at Honey Lane, Waltham Abbey, with detachments at Forest Road, Loughton, Bishops’ Stortford, Hertfordshire and Great Dunmow – from the Essex Hunt, D Squadron (Major Francis Whitmore of Orsett Hall, formerly of the 1st Essex Artillery Volunteers) at Drill Hall, East Street, Southend-On-Sea with detachments at Drill Hall, Ongar Road, Brentwood, Artillery Drill Hall, Brook Road, Grays Stratford and Orsett– from the Essex Union Hunt, Honorary Chaplin, Henry Johnson, Bishop of Colchester (former Coronet in the1st Royal Dragoons).

The Boer War was still going on, and further volunteers went out to South Africa with the second contingent of the IY. Major J.H. Patterson, DSO, of the Essex Imperial Yeomanry, was appointed Temporary Lt-Col to command the 33rd Battalion on 17 January 1902. The Imperial Yeomanry were merged into the new Territorial force under the Haldane Reforms of 1908. The regiment simply dropped 'Imperial' from the title and was designated as Dragoons when Lieutenant-Col Colvin handed over command of the regiment to Lt-Col 'Ned' Deacon in February 1911.

In accordance with the Territorial and Reserve Forces Act of 1907 brought the Territorial Force into being. It was intended to be a home defense force for service during wartime and members could not be compelled to serve outside the country. However, on the outbreak of World War One on 4 August 1914, many members volunteered for “Imperial Service.” Therefore, Territorial Force units were split in August and September 1914 into 1st Line (liable for overseas service) and 2nd Line (home service for those unable or unwilling to serve overseas) units. Later, a 3rd Line was formed to act as a reserve, providing trained replacements for the 1st and 2nd Line regiments and the Essex Yeomanry was thus organized. The 1st Line regiment was mobilized at Colchester on the outbreak of war and, with the Easter Mounted Brigade joined the 1st Mounted Division in the Ipswich area. By the end of August 1914 it was in the Woodbridge area. The CO reported that the men were all medically fit, fully trained, and aged 19 years or older, and the regiment was accepted for overseas service. However, delays in obtaining replacement kit and new saddles delayed the regiment's departure for the Western Front until late November, and it just missed being eligible for the “Mons Star” issued to the “Old Contemptibles.”

The regiment landed at Le Havre on 1 December 1914 and joined the Royal Horse Guards and the 10th Royal Hussars in France on 12 December 1914 as part of 8th Cavalry Brigade,3rd Cavalry Division near Hazebrouck.. It remained on the Western Front for the rest of the war

After mobilization the Essex Yeomanry reorganized on a three-squadron basis: RHQ: 6 officers and 34 men, commanded by Lt-Col Deacon, A Sqn: Colchester, Ardleigh Harwich, Clacton and Walton-on-the-Naze Troops, with the South-end Troop from D Sqn – 6 officers and 136 men commanded by Major Eustace Hill, B Sqn: Braintree and Finchingfield, Tiptree and Maldon, Halstead and Chelmsford Troops, with the Orsett Troop from D Sqn – 6 officers and 138 men commanded by Major Guy Gold, C Sqn: Waltham Abbey, Epping, Dunmow and Bishop's Stortford Troops, with the Brentwood and Stratford Troop from D Sqn – 6 officers and 135 men commanded by Major Andrew Roddick (the owner of the helmet subject of this post), Machine Gun Section – 25 men commanded by Lieutenant Tom Buxton.

The regiment saw its first action at the Battle of Frezenberg Ridge, Ypres, Belgium, on 13 May 1915, when in pouring rain it made a dismounted bayonet charge that recaptured disputed German front line trenches. Following three weeks of heavy fighting which included the use of chlorine gas the Essex Yeomanry were moved into a support position at the strategically important Frezenberg Ridge. Their main task was to dig a communications trench to ease communications between the front line and GHQ. At 4:00 am the Germans started a bombardment which lasted four hours and damaged the defensive trenches held by the 2nd Lifeguards, Prince Albert’s Own Leicestershire Yeomanry and the 3rd (Prince of Wales’s) Dragoon Guards. The German offensive took the trenches held by the 1st Lifeguards and desperate fighting took place. Reinforcements were called for and the Essex Yeomanry, The Horse Guards and the 10th Royal Hussars charged the trenches and drove back the German offensive. But having suffered substantial casualties from artillery fire, it was ordered to withdraw with the rest of the brigade. All told it suffered 51 killed, 91 wounded and 19 missing: a total of 161out of 302 who went into action. Among the dead were the Commanding Officer, Lieutenant Colonel Deacon, and his acting second-in-command, Major Roddick. Most of the dead, including Lieutenant Colonel Deacon and Major Roddick were buried in unmarked graves and are now commemorated on the Menin Gate Memorial to the Missing at Ypres The regiment later chose Ypres 1915 and Frezenberg as the first two battle honors to be emblazoned on its guidon.

The surviving 149 Yeoman under the command of Major Tony Buxton went into reserve at Hooge . A Regular Army officer, Lieutenant Colonel Wickham of the Kings Dragoon Guards, was brought in as Commanding Officer to train and integrate the replacement drafts into the regiment. Major Whitmore, who had been wounded on the morning of 13 May and thus missed the afternoon assault on Frezenberg Ridge, returned in September and took command with the rank of Lieutenant Colonel. Popularly known as “Brasso” he remained in command until 1918. The regiment was present with the rest of 3rd Cavalry Division defending Loos during the Battle of Loos (26–8 September 1915), but did not see serious action again until 1917. The regimental machine gun section was combined with those of the other regiments to form the 8th Brigade Machine Gun Squadron, Machine Gun Corps on 29 February 1916. The Essex Yeomanry went on to take part in the Battle of the Scarpe that launched the Arras Offensive.

The regiment was reconstituted in 1920 as part of the Territorial Army with regimental headquarters at Colchester. In 1921, the regiment was converted from cavalry to artillery and became the 104th (Essex Yeomanry) Brigade, Royal Field Artillery: Regimental Headquarters was at Colchester, 413 (Essex Yeomanry) Battery was based at Colchester, and 414 (Essex Yeomanry) Battery was based at Harlow.

In 1932, with regimental headquarters and 413 Battery transferred to Chelmsford, the regiment gained 339 (Essex Royal Horse Artillery) Battery based at Colchester, transferred from 85th (East Anglia) Field Brigade. In 1938, the regiment was renamed 104th (Essex Yeomanry) Regiment, Royal Horse Artillery.

The Essex Yeomanry helmet in my collection is an 1871 pattern officers helmet distinctive to the regiment. It is of gilt brass surmounted with a red horse hair plume. The helmet plate is made up of four pieces consisting of the sliver star plate, the gilt band containing the regiments motto, in the center mounted within the motto scroll a silver shield of the arms of Essex, and lastly the gilt regimental title scroll below the star plate, which would be in white metal for other ranks and the center piece is in one stamping in brass containing the motto band and arms of Essex for other rank too. This helmet is complete with its named japanned travel/storage tin with a brass makers plate and brass name plate engraved “Major A. Roddick, Essex Yeomanry.”

Thank you for viewing this helmet and I hope, even though lengthy, you aprriciate the brief regimental history!

Cheers,

David

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Major Andrew Roddick, Essex Yeomanry, France April 1915

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Essex Yeomanry Coronation Detachment Coronation of Edward VII

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Essex Yeomanry Officer Full Dress Circa 1901
Hello David,
and it continues with a beautiful helmet, which also has a provenance and is therefore even more lively!
It is possible that the biography of the former wearer can be found in the britisch master roles.
Thank you again for the presentation!
The imagination here are slowly developing into a „picture manual“ about the British Dragoons in the venerable Britisch Army…
Beast regards
Frank
 
Steve, now these are truly remarkable hussar Busby's! They look to be in absolutely in mint condition! The "death's head" very reminiscent of the British 17th Lances who from their very early days (pre-American Revolutionary War) use the skull and crossbones in various forms as their regimental badge. What type of fur are these busbies made of? The plumes are, I think I recognize one as egret feathers, what is the other more hair-like plume made of? I feel like I need to make a road trip to your location to marvel over your stunning collection!!!!

Cheers,

David
This is an old article David, but it should answer your questions about Imperial German furry hats and patterns of Totenkopf (I collect Totenkopf). As always I am very much enjoying your latest #7 essay. Beautiful helmets.

 
This is an old article David, but it should answer your questions about Imperial German furry hats and patterns of Totenkopf (I collect Totenkopf). As always I am very much enjoying your latest #7 essay. Beautiful helmets.

Hi Tony,

Thank you for sending along the article about Totenkopf and the associated Imperial German busbies... I took a quick glance at it and it will be a most interesting read!

Thank you!!! I am so pleased you are enjoying my latest post... I think I got a bit long winded in my "brief" regimental history though!! As well, I appreciate your very generous comments regarding my collection of helmets that I have focused on in my various posts! I am planning my next post to focus on a dragoon helmet a good bit closer to you in Canada... please stay tuned!!!

Again. many thanks and kindest regards,

David
 
Steve, now these are truly remarkable hussar Busby's! They look to be in absolutely in mint condition! The "death's head" very reminiscent of the British 17th Lances who from their very early days (pre-American Revolutionary War) use the skull and crossbones in various forms as their regimental badge. What type of fur are these busbies made of? The plumes are, I think I recognize one as egret feathers, what is the other more hair-like plume made of? I feel like I need to make a road trip to your location to marvel over your stunning collection!!!!

Cheers,

David
David
You are welcome to visit any time
Just let me know ahead of time
thanks
Steve
 
I don't yet have a Pickelhaube with the Waterloo bandeau but I do have a sword from "Feldartill. Regt von Scharnhorst (Hannoversches) Nr.10".

One day I would love to have the matching Artillery Pickelhaube to go with the sword.

Especially since I served 33 years in the Royal Regiment of Canadian Artillery.

UBIQUE
Peter,

Your artillery sword is fabulous! It appears to be near mint condition... the etched blade is so clean and well defined. Approximately what was the period this particular pattern was in use? I think it is a wonderful find!!

I was an aviation Major and pilot in the United States Army flying attack helicopters...

Cheers,

David
 
Hello David,
and it continues with a beautiful helmet, which also has a provenance and is therefore even more lively!
It is possible that the biography of the former wearer can be found in the britisch master roles.
Thank you again for the presentation!
The imagination here are slowly developing into a „picture manual“ about the British Dragoons in the venerable Britisch Army…
Beast regards
Frank
Hello Frank!

What a delight to hear from you and receive your note! I am thrilled that you are following my posts and are continuing to enjoy the regimental histories and indeed the helmets in my collection themselves. It is fairly uncommon to find helmets today that still have their original named storage travel/storage tin. The helmet also came with a number of original photographs and a good bit of biographical information regarding the original owner, Major Roddick. The helmet itself is in extremely good condition and was excited to be able to acquire it for my collection. The British archives are pretty extensive, and I have just recently begun to do more research beyond what information came with the helmet.

As always, thank you for your very positive and affirming comments and remarks about my posts and my dragoon helmet collection!

My warmest regards,

David
 
I don't yet have a Pickelhaube with the Waterloo bandeau but I do have a sword from "Feldartill. Regt von Scharnhorst (Hannoversches) Nr.10".

One day I would love to have the matching Artillery Pickelhaube to go with the sword.

Especially since I served 33 years in the Royal Regiment of Canadian Artillery.

UBIQUE
Nice display
Steve
 
Hello Peter,

It is an interesting picture of your great-grand father. From the image it is difficult if not impossible to attribute the uniform to any particular regiments. I would suggest that a great deal of artistic license was taken in creating the image, it appears to have had a great deal of hand work done. That said, the uniform could be the British army's blue serge uniform of the period with omission of the regiments collar badges and in which case the collar would be the same blue as the body of the jacket and not the colored collar displayed in full dress... I would think that the absents of collar badges is due to the artist omission. As for the chainmail, again, they appear to be somewhat stylized by the artist and are not quite the correct shape but appropriate to the blue serge uniform... see attachments below...

Cheers,

David


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Probably a 1960's image of an officer of the 5th DG but gives you an idea of the blue serge uniform and chainmail shoulder scales.

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Chainmail shoulder scales, for shape, these to a Captain of cavalry, other ranks would be devoid of the rank pips.View attachment 33131
Chainmail shoulder scales... would have a regimental metal shoulder title just before the chainmail widens to form the diamond shape.

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How the chainmail shoulder scale appears when properly fitted to the tunic... in this case to an offer to the King's Own Norfolk Imperial Yeomanry.
Thanks David.

I think you are right about the artistic license taken by the artist. He was definitely 5th DG. I have copies of his "two" service records. A family story was confirmed when I got them. He ran away from home as a teenager and lied about his age and was found out and released. It has it right in the record. Then his parents gave in or he came of age and joined again in the 5th DG.. From the service record I was able to determine all the bars on his QSA medal as I only have his KSA. I was able to get a duplicate made then with the correct bars.

Cheers.

Peter
 

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