Can anyone verify the authenticity of this Pickelhaube from the Bavarian Field Artillery?

[gino1]

I wouldn't buy this helmet. It is too expensive for this condition and not the right helmet. In addition, the patina of the replacement material isn’t nice. Your GGF wasn‘t an officer but an NCO. You would need an M1886 NCO helmet of the field artillery (with curved chinscales).
The following should be more correct helmets, unfortunately without red hairbush. The first is a Landwehr helmet, but if he didn't die before he should have belonged to the Landwehr after his active military service. The 2nd is not cheap and just an EM helmet, but in really good condition and with field-artillery stamps.

Bayern Pickelhaube für einen Unteroffizier der Landwehr Chevaulegers, Feldartillerie oder Train - Bayern - Kaiserreich & Weimarer Rep.: Uniformen, Kopfbedeckungen, Stahlhelme etc. - Militaria / Helmut Weitze

Bayern Pickelhaube für einen Unteroffizier der Landwehr Chevaulegers, Feldartillerie oder Train Fertigung in schwerer Kammerqualität, um 1900. Schwerer Lederhelm, komplett mit allen Beschlägen. Großes Helmemblem mit aufgelegtem silbernen Landwehrkreuz, eckiger Vorderschirm,

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ERHALTUNG Bayern Pickelhaube 1901 VIELE Stempel 3. Feldartillerie-Regiment [#15] | eBay.de

Bayern Pickelhaube 3. Gut bis sehr gut erhaltene schwere Lederglocke.

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sometimes you have to look at dealers, who have good merchandise and with certainty that it is good, everyone has an opinion about the price, everyone decides what you want to pay yourself

 

[CLOVIS 57]

Bayern Helmemblem für die Pickelhaube Offiziere - Bayern - Kaiserreich & Weimarer Republik: Uniformeffekten, Ausrüstung, etc - Militaria / Helmut Weitze

Bayern Helmemblem für die Pickelhaube Offiziere Kleine Ausführung ab 1914. Buntmetall vergoldet mit aufpolierten Kanten und durchbrochen gearbeiteter Krone. Rückseitig mit zwei aufgelöteten Schrauben. Durchmesser ca. 11.4 cm. Zustand 2.

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No, that's not right either (plate M1896 for the infantry ‘troop’ and not ‘officer’ as said by Helmut !!! The screws at the back show a private purchase plate for a one year enlisted man. The plate for officer, even of Bavarian infantry is larger and the crowns of the lions are openwork). :

Here are the 3 plausible plates, you'll need the large one on the bottom left.

 

[CLOVIS 57]

A non-commissioned officer's helmet or one bought privately is going to be hard to find. Go for an enlisted man's helmet, not an officer's.

Here are two helmets that might be suitable. The one on the left still has the large M1886 plate, while the one on the right has the M1914 configuration, leather campaign chinstrap, medium plate without the branches.
Don't be impatient, take your time, and don't hesitate to seek advice before you decide.

 

[omega_pickelhaube]

A non-commissioned officer's helmet or one bought privately is going to be hard to find. Go for an enlisted man's helmet, not an officer's.

Here are two helmets that might be suitable. The one on the left still has the large M1886 plate, while the one on the right has the M1914 configuration, leather campaign chinstrap, medium plate without the branches. View attachment 56316
Don't be impatient, take your time, and don't hesitate to seek advice before you decide.

As far as i can tell, with the sources from kaisersbunker.com, the round chin scales would also be correct for any NCO and Officer helmets after 1914. I might just try to offer a low price to the seller, because as far as i can tell, its mostly the Wappen thats wrong on the haube. Because in my opinion getting the haube with the paradebusch is worth it, as a trade off i will have to track down a correct emblem.

 

[JPT]

 

[omega_pickelhaube]

This is a Bavarian M86 field artillery helmet. But with its stars, its perlring at the base of the tip, its silk liner, its special roundels, etc... it is an officer's helmet. If your ancestor was not an officer, you will need the same helmet for the troops.
The red horsehair Haarbusch is correct, but was only worn on parade.
It is normal that this helmet has no marking, indeed, the helmets of officer was of personal purchase of the trade. Unlike troop helmets, which belonged to the Army, they were marked by the regiment and the Corps Clothing Office.
This helmet is a helmet made at the beginning of or during the war, because it is made of ‘Kriegsmétal’, i.e. the fittings, instead of being made of gilded brass, are partly made of gilded zinc. As the gilding is fragile, it is erased from the zinc, giving it a faded appearance. This helmet is in very average condition, one of the lion's crowns is missing, I can see some of the fragile stitching, etc... In France, a helmet like this would still fetch around €1,000-€1,300, due to the presence of the Haarbusch, which is a plus.
Here's the KB FAR M86/96 entry-level model for the troops:
View attachment 56198
If your grandfather was in the ‘foot’ artillery, i.e. heavy artillery, he had flat chinstrap scales. If he was in the field artillery (on horseback), he had curved scales.

Hi, quoting you again, because I really value your opinion. i managed to get the seller down to 600€ for the Haube in its current state. In my opinion this would be quite a good deal if I am not mistaken. Despite the wrong emblem, which is fixable. What is your opinion?

 

[CLOVIS 57]

Hello,
Yes, at €600, it's a good price, especially with its beautiful Haarbusch. Your ancestor was a non-commissioned officer, and here we're talking about an officer. But you'll have an officer's helmet that matches your ancestor's hairstyle.
The front plate will do, until you find a large M1886 officer's plate.

 

[omega_pickelhaube]

Hello,
Yes, at €600, it's a good price, especially with its beautiful Haarbusch. Your ancestor was a non-commissioned officer, and here we're talking about an officer. But you'll have an officer's helmet that matches your ancestor's hairstyle.
The front plate will do, until you find a large M1886 officer's plate.

Great yes, with the bush it looks great as a display, whilst the minor differences between an officers and an ncos Haube would probably only strike a trained eye. Thank you again for your opinion!