Casing for the Krupp 21 cm Mörser 10/16

[michiel]

Here are two pictures of the 21 cm morser in transport mode as displayed at the Brussels army museum

 

[Peter B]

As a former tanker Tony could chip in as well on how the tanks do it. I think probably like our 105 mm rounds.

 

[coert65]

As a former tanker Tony could chip in as well on how the tanks do it. I think probably like our 105 mm rounds.

Well, Tony was on the Leopard tanks, which were all sold off in the Netherlands, and ended up there. In Canada.

 

[Grabenmaxx]

As far as I know it was always transported separated. Having the projectiles and shell casings moved as a whole is heavy but more importantly much more dangerous when being hit by (counter battery) shell fire.

 

[Doug B]

As a former tanker Tony could chip in as well on how the tanks do it. I think probably like our 105 mm rounds.

Tony also has one hell of a German shell casing collection as well.

 

[Grabenmaxx]

For anyone interested in one:

② WO1 Duitse 21cm Mörser huls LEEG — Militaria | Algemeen — 2dehands

Grote Duitse huls21cm Mörser 1911Bekijk zeker ook mijn andere obussen, bajonetten en andere militaria.Volgens de regels: dit is een gebruikte, lege of

www.2dehands.be

 

[Tony without Kaiser]

Nice thread. Quick answer to the charge vs. fixed, is that every German caliber 10cm and higher consisted of a projectile being loaded followed by a cartridge case which was essentially a primer. For larger calibres bagged charges were placed between the projectile and the cartridge casing. Number of bags was calibrated to range etc. NATO Tanks are fixed charges. Russian made Tanks use projectile followed by a bagged charge. Unfortunately that auto-load design has not worked well.

This might be a helpful link to keep. Kaiser's Bunker Guide to Imperial German Cartridge Casings was been on my website since 2011.

Each cartridge casing is photographed in detail, with full explanations and statistics, as well as some background information on the cannons that fired them. Over 250 photographs including some rare period images of Imperial German cannons. To place size into context, each cartridge casing is photographed with Imperial German Artillery headgear.

Click HERE to enter the site. Or here https://www.kaisersbunker.com/cc/





My favorite of course is the Krupp 38 cm SK L/45.

 

[Dane Jensen]

Nice thread. Quick answer to the charge vs. fixed, is that every German caliber 10cm and higher consisted of a projectile being loaded followed by a cartridge case which was essentially a primer. For larger calibres bagged charges were placed between the projectile and the cartridge casing. Number of bags was calibrated to range etc. NATO Tanks are fixed charges. Russian made Tanks use projectile followed by a bagged charge. Unfortunately that auto-load design has not worked well.

This might be a helpful link to keep. Kaiser's Bunker Guide to Imperial German Cartridge Casings was been on my website since 2011.

Each cartridge casing is photographed in detail, with full explanations and statistics, as well as some background information on the cannons that fired them. Over 250 photographs including some rare period images of Imperial German cannons. To place size into context, each cartridge casing is photographed with Imperial German Artillery headgear.

Click HERE to enter the site. Or here https://www.kaisersbunker.com/cc/

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My favorite of course is the Krupp 38 cm SK L/45.

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I gotta ask, Tony, where do you find these casings? I’d love to add more but I’ve had no luck finding any others. What are their prices like? What’s the rarity on some of these!

Really appreciate you taking time on this thread, always fun to see your input!

 

[Lars13]

A long time ago I saw some of the steel 7.7 cm casings in the Somme region, they don't display as nice as the brass ones though

 

[gino1]

These were found at a rag market or flea market as we say, around 40 euros, that's about 45 dollars I think.

 

[John Josef]

Nice thread. Quick answer to the charge vs. fixed, is that every German caliber 10cm and higher consisted of a projectile being loaded followed by a cartridge case which was essentially a primer. For larger calibres bagged charges were placed between the projectile and the cartridge casing. Number of bags was calibrated to range etc. NATO Tanks are fixed charges. Russian made Tanks use projectile followed by a bagged charge. Unfortunately that auto-load design has not worked well.

This might be a helpful link to keep. Kaiser's Bunker Guide to Imperial German Cartridge Casings was been on my website since 2011.

Each cartridge casing is photographed in detail, with full explanations and statistics, as well as some background information on the cannons that fired them. Over 250 photographs including some rare period images of Imperial German cannons. To place size into context, each cartridge casing is photographed with Imperial German Artillery headgear.

Click HERE to enter the site. Or here https://www.kaisersbunker.com/cc/

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My favorite of course is the Krupp 38 cm SK L/45.

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Great collection Tony, I love the wicker case, I have a few smaller caliber wicker shell transports for the field artillery wagons but have never seen that one before. Well done that

It's always nice to see items from your collection it's so expertly curated and photographed not to mention your war room is always in perfect order and so clean. Something I strife for but always seem to be endlessly working towards. Hats off to your effort it really pays off.

MFG John Josef