Dreyse M1862
- Thread starter krh1956
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Hi
congratulations on your new rifle, those guys are scarce to find.
Here is a link to a gentleman who I purchased an 1862 & 1841 model bayonet from... http://www.jjmilitaryantiques.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; His name is Jason Kaplan and is very knowledgeable. Another source where I have seen them listed from time-to-time would be Gunbroker.com
Any unit markings on the buttplate tang? No idea on the sling, I've never seen one, none of mine have one either.
Larry
congratulations on your new rifle, those guys are scarce to find.
Here is a link to a gentleman who I purchased an 1862 & 1841 model bayonet from... http://www.jjmilitaryantiques.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; His name is Jason Kaplan and is very knowledgeable. Another source where I have seen them listed from time-to-time would be Gunbroker.com
Any unit markings on the buttplate tang? No idea on the sling, I've never seen one, none of mine have one either.
Larry
Hey Keith,krh1956 said:
Here is a thread that might help with posting photos, it is rally easy when you know how, You have had it for two days, ans still not photos? Y are going to have to buy a round of beer at SOS next year if you do not get photos up soon!
Best
Gus
This Dreyse was the first I'd seen for sale in the UK for some time, so when it popped up, I thought I should nab it sharpish ... here's a photo supplied by the seller. I'm waiting for my super-talented photographer daughter to come home from holiday before getting some photos taken!
Hello Keith
If you happen to speak German, this is a useful page:
http://www.waffensammler-kuratorium.de/Dillenbajo%20M%2062/BajoM62ge.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
If not, I can tell you that inter alia it says the bayonet should be browned, not bright like the M1841 bayonet. I have an M1862 which took me a while to find a bayonet for, but they are out there and you shouldn't have to pay much over £200 for a good one. Ebay is the best bet. It may take a while tho and you need to have patience. Resist the temptation to buy something like this:
http://www.waffenhandelimspessart.de/index.php?option=com_articlelist&view=article&id=31" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
which has no original finish left. I got mine from this dealer, who is a bit hit and miss with his stock but seems reasonable enough on prices:
http://www.huesken.com/index_e.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I would rate your chance of finding a sling at about nil. However one never knows what will turn up. I've also managed to buy an M1841 and bayonet; it was not cheap, but as you say, there's very little around in the UK. Are you a Franco-Prussian War collector or is your interest just in the firearms?
I will try and upload some photos in the next few days.
Good luck!
S.
PS welcome to the Forum!
PPS that bright bayonet in the first link is a French bayonet.
PPPS they come without scabbards - none were issued and the bayonet was carried fixed on campaign. Sounds incredibly inconvenient, but it's true.
If you happen to speak German, this is a useful page:
http://www.waffensammler-kuratorium.de/Dillenbajo%20M%2062/BajoM62ge.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
If not, I can tell you that inter alia it says the bayonet should be browned, not bright like the M1841 bayonet. I have an M1862 which took me a while to find a bayonet for, but they are out there and you shouldn't have to pay much over £200 for a good one. Ebay is the best bet. It may take a while tho and you need to have patience. Resist the temptation to buy something like this:
http://www.waffenhandelimspessart.de/index.php?option=com_articlelist&view=article&id=31" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
which has no original finish left. I got mine from this dealer, who is a bit hit and miss with his stock but seems reasonable enough on prices:
http://www.huesken.com/index_e.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I would rate your chance of finding a sling at about nil. However one never knows what will turn up. I've also managed to buy an M1841 and bayonet; it was not cheap, but as you say, there's very little around in the UK. Are you a Franco-Prussian War collector or is your interest just in the firearms?
I will try and upload some photos in the next few days.
Good luck!
S.
PS welcome to the Forum!
PPS that bright bayonet in the first link is a French bayonet.
PPPS they come without scabbards - none were issued and the bayonet was carried fixed on campaign. Sounds incredibly inconvenient, but it's true.
Hey Scratch, thanks for all the information ... will read and digest. Luckily my wife has passable German, so I rely on her for detailed translation.
Good to hear that you agree about the rarity of these in the UK, I was SLIGHTLY worried that it was just me who had missed the Dreyse-R-Us website!
I collect firearms, mainly, but I like to get bits and pieces to display in context, so a pickelhaube might be next once I've cracked the bayonet issue.
Keith
Good to hear that you agree about the rarity of these in the UK, I was SLIGHTLY worried that it was just me who had missed the Dreyse-R-Us website!
I collect firearms, mainly, but I like to get bits and pieces to display in context, so a pickelhaube might be next once I've cracked the bayonet issue.
Keith
Keith
I wouldn't necessarily assume that. I have a feeling I've seen at least one other photo of a Dreyse with just the one date, but can't remember where. I don't know what the issuing process was, or whether there was more than one supply chain via which a rifle could have got into use, but there were more M1841s than M1862s in use during the F-P War and it seems likely that every available up-to-date weapon would have been pressed into service. But really we need someone who understands the Prussian supply system to comment.
Cheers,
S.
I wouldn't necessarily assume that. I have a feeling I've seen at least one other photo of a Dreyse with just the one date, but can't remember where. I don't know what the issuing process was, or whether there was more than one supply chain via which a rifle could have got into use, but there were more M1841s than M1862s in use during the F-P War and it seems likely that every available up-to-date weapon would have been pressed into service. But really we need someone who understands the Prussian supply system to comment.
Cheers,
S.
Nice rifle Scratch....these old guys are hard to find. Thanks for posting the photos always good to see these tigers in captivity. :thumb up:
I had a look at my 1862, its dated 1867 and 1868 with the buttplate tang marked to the 7th Grenadier Regiment, serial number 4862, Soemmerda mfg.
My other one is an odd duck, the barrel is finished brown with a bright receiver and no date stamps or Imperial proofs anywhere to be seen. The only markings are Gu.S Suhl on the right side of the receiver and the number 5 stamped on the two sections of the blue steel rear sight, receiver, barrel, buttplate tang and all visible screwheads. The stock is unmarked and it's also dufflebag cut beneath the lower barrel band. This enabled the GI to stow it in his dufflebag for the trip home to the states after WWII.
Any thoughts on this one? :-k
Cheers
Larmo
I had a look at my 1862, its dated 1867 and 1868 with the buttplate tang marked to the 7th Grenadier Regiment, serial number 4862, Soemmerda mfg.
My other one is an odd duck, the barrel is finished brown with a bright receiver and no date stamps or Imperial proofs anywhere to be seen. The only markings are Gu.S Suhl on the right side of the receiver and the number 5 stamped on the two sections of the blue steel rear sight, receiver, barrel, buttplate tang and all visible screwheads. The stock is unmarked and it's also dufflebag cut beneath the lower barrel band. This enabled the GI to stow it in his dufflebag for the trip home to the states after WWII.
Any thoughts on this one? :-k
Cheers
Larmo