E Uberzug

joerookery

joerookery

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I've searched hard for this. Band Ersatz Inf Reg 32. Clearly marked in 1916. Not all had the same uberzug!
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Congrats Joe! God how I would love to have one of those uberzugs. My guess would be red numbers and "E". What do you think? Brian
 
Brian,

I believe that the reason that some have the letter and some do not is that the letters were not worn prior to mobilization. If this is true, the letters in this picture would most likely be green, as the green insignia replaced the red in August of 1914.

It's interesting to note that Kraus does not even mention the "E" Uberzüge in his discussion of helmet cover insignia.

Chip
 
Wyliecoyote said:
Joe

I believe that only pioneers carried their shovels handle up, why that was I have no idea.

Geo
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Hey joe,
George is right, the long handled shovels equipment of the pioneers.
Gus
 
I believe that only pioneers carried their shovels handle up
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I used to believe that too. I have now seen these guys and a guy from 125th that have the shovel so mounted. I do not think there were pioneer bns that would fit these numbers...... :( :(
 
R1.....I had to laugh -- I just noticed I'm missing an entire page of the Ruhmeshalle -- the 2nd page of pioneers. Ok you might just be right on the 24th but what about 125? I'm really thinking about having a word with these guys who did not write on the back of these cards... :x
 
R1, could you tell me where the 10th Pioneer Bn. was garrisoned?
Unfortunately this pic is undated. Like Joe's, it's an ausmarsch photo.

 
Chip Minx said:
It's interesting to note that Kraus does not even mention the "E" Uberzüge in his discussion of helmet cover insignia.
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Kraus (1999) Vol. 1 p. 459. for Ersatz Infanterie Regimenter, an "E" on the Überzug with regimental number.
 
Lookin through my pc's, I came across this fellow: card is blank on the reverse so there is no I.D. The angle of the shoulder straps is not good to get a unit number, but look at the long handled shovel, jeez, ball finial on the handle is "down". I always assumed he was a pioneer, but is he?

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Seeing how awkward he looks with the handle down it is easy to see why they carried these with the handle up.
 
Uh... Wiley, this is the standard infantry shovel and this is the way they normally carried them.

Chip


Tony,

OK, it's in there, but not in the helmet cover section, so technically I wasn't wrong!? :???:
 
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