Eisenbahn Regiment Nr.2

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Eisenbahn Regiment Nr.2 Einjährig Freiwilliger Heine , enjoy the pictures.

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Great helmet !
How can it be any better
all the extras
What is the title of the soldier ?
The 2 short words above his name ?
I am not familiar with the titles for the enlisted
Eisenbahn troops .
I have an enlisted man's helmet to an Eisenbahn unit
but don't remember which unit and there is no name tag
in it .
The 3 helmets together look super
Nothing like the silver trim
Thanks for the photos
Steve
 
I am not familiar with the titles for the enlisted
Eisenbahn troops .
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Steve,

I am not so sure there was one. This is an excerpt from part of appendix C of The Great War Dawning.

The following ranks all equate to a soldier in the rank of private:

Chevauleger Private in Bavarian Chevauxleger regiment (also quite often spelled: Chevauleger)
Dragoner Private in dragoon regiment-less No.3
Ersatz-Reservist Soldier normally a private belonging to the Ersatz-Reserve
Fahrender Artillerist Mounted private in Bavarian field artillery
Fahrer Driver in general or a private in Saxon mounted field artillery or draft-horse detachments of the foot artillery.
Füsilier Private in any füsilier regiment or III battalion Guard Regiment zu Fuss 1-5 or Garde- Grenadier Regiment 1-5, IR115, students in Prussian or Württemberg Unteroffiziers- vorschule
Gardist Private in Prussian Guard formation, in battalion I or II IR 115 or Saxon Guard Reiter Regiment

Gemeiner or Traingemeiner Privates in train units with long (Saxon 3yr.) active requirements
Grenadier Private in any grenadier regiment or battalion, I or II Guard Regiment zu Fuss 1-5 or Garde- Grenadier Regiment 1-5, or Grenadier Regiments 1-12, or Regiments 89,100,101,109,110,119,123.
Garde-Füsilier Private in Guard-Füsilier Regiment
Grenadier zu Pferd Private in Grenadier Regiment zu Pferd No.3
Hornist/Hoboist Trumpeter
Husar Private in hussar regiment
Infanterist Private in a Bavarian infantry regiment
Jäger Private in Jäger battalion
Jäger zu Pferd Private in Jäger zu Pferd regiment-less No. 1
Kanonier Private in foot artillery or Prussian field artillery or the dismounted members in Bavarian and Saxon field artillery units
Karabinier Private in Saxon Karabinier regiment
Königsjäger Private in Jäger zu Pferd regiment No. 1
Kriegsfreiwilliger Wartime Volunteer
Kürassier Private in Kürassier regiment
Landsturmmann Soldier normally a private belonging to the Landsturm
Musketier Private in Prussian or Württemberg infantry Regiments
Pionier Private in sapper/engineer battalion, technical troops
Reiter Private in Bavarian Schwere Reiter Regiment
Reservist Soldier, normally a private, belonging to the reserves
Schütze IR 108, Garde-Schützen Bataillon, private in the machine gun and bicycle companies
Soldat Private in Saxon infantry battalion
Tambour Drummer
Trainsoldat Private in train units from Prussia, Württemberg, and Saxony with short (1 yr.) active requirements, and all privates from Bavaria.
Ulan Private in Ulan regiment
Unteroffiziersvorschüler Private in Saxon or Bavarian Unteroffiziersvorschulen
Wehrmann Soldier normally a private belonging to the Landwehr
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Tony ;
Why would a 1 Year Volunteer have a helmet that
has a Kammer unit issue stamp in it ?
The 1 Year Volunteers as I understand had to
buy and pay for their own uniforms and helmets
unless
were they allowed to buy / purchase from the Kammer ?

Thanks
Steve
 
The first one is a beauty ,but those others are no less

Nice haubes those 3 in a row :thumb up:

Jonas
 
Here is my Eisenbahn issue enlisted helmet .
I sold or traded it to a local collector
but I bought it back in 2008 .



Now I remember my helmet is E.R.2. also .Looks like it was issued 2 times
1888 and 1896 . II.B. 5.C one marking to the left of the 5.C I can not read
the 2 slash marks to the right of 5.C I issued 2 times





The Eisenbahn troops worn Prussian Garde uniforms and helmets
not sure of the reason . They were also allowed an Garde Muster flags for their units .
One of the most beautiful flags of the Prussian Armee are the Eisenbahn flags.
White silk with heavy silver bullion threads for the cyphers in the 4 corners and
around the eagle center . The eagle is also of silver bullion wire which is on a black
metallic mess center . Only 5 of these flags were ever made . 4 for the Eisenbahn units
and 1 for the Garde Pioneers . The Garde Pioneer was for years at Rastatt ,
it has been transferred to the DHM .
Steve





Think of all the hours it took to complete one flag .
 
Steve,

Another excerpt from The Great War Dawning. I am biased but I think everyone should have this. It is a bit pricey but like everything made by this publisher it is a work of art.


One-Year Volunteers
A one-year volunteer (OYV) had to equip himself with rations, quarters, uniforms, and equipment). He had to pay also for a horse (if needed) or had to pay into the remount fund. The cost was generally equal to the cost of one year at university and depended on the kind of unit a one-year volunteer decided to join. He could choose his regiment; however, infantry, Jäger, engineers, and foot artillery were expected to pay between 1,750 and 2,200 Mark for their year. Field artillery and train units increased the cost to around 2,300-2,700 Mark. But for cavalry and mounted field artillery, the costs soared to 3,400 to 3,600 Mark a year. There is a misconception that one-year volunteers purchased most of the uniforms and equipment from commercial sources. In reality, most of the uniforms and equipment were either purchased or rented from the regiment.
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Thank you gentlemen for the nice comments.

Steve that is a very nice helmet too and the flag is beautiful.

Joe i have send a pm with a picture of the stamp i hope you have recieve it.
 
KAGGR#1 said:
Tony Why would a 1 Year Volunteer have a helmet that
has a Kammer unit issue stamp in it ? The 1 Year Volunteers as I understand had to
buy and pay for their own uniforms and helmets unless were they allowed to buy / purchase from the Kammer?
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The "myth" is that all Einjährig-Freiwilliger (One year volunteer) were required to buy their own uniforms etc. And they usually did. However, in truth, issue items such as Waffenrock, Pickelhaube, and Mütze etc. were also made available to Einjährig-Freiwilliger for use for an annual fee. Basically, the unit rented these items to Einjährig-Freiwilliger. In some cases, clothing items were marked as being specifically for use by Einjährig-Freiwilliger. So a cloth owner's label named to a Einjährig-Freiwilliger in a liner with issue stamps is not uncommon. I have quite a few.

joerookery said:
I am not so sure there was one.
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Pionier.

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Beautiful set of helmets, great detail photo's as well! Thanks for sharing.

Steve, the Eisenbahn flag is superb, a rare treat to be sure. It must have taken quite a while to hand embroider these flags.

Dennis
 
joerookery wrote:
I am not so sure there was one.


Pionier.
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I agree. Like other technical troops Pioneer was often applied. However, in the case of the railroad I do not know how homogenous this was based on some graveyard stuff I have been sent. Seems like they got an awful lot of guys that were almost just day laborers. Those guys had more common titles. Only my view.
 
Excellent helmet(s) in beautiful condition!
Excellent contribution about Einj. Freiwilliger also...

Adler
 
joerookery said:
Only my view.
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Few views more educated or respected than yours Joe. I pondered if the use of Pionier comes from the fact that Eisenbahn are essentially wearing the uniform of a Garde Pionier?

I love the three silver helmets photo at the bottom of the first post by Westfront.as Nicely done :thumbright: Steve said, nothing beats silver on black. And a superb Eisenbahn issued helmet. Here is my Model 1871 Preußen Eisenbahn Regt (Railway) Mannschaften (Other Ranks) Pickelhaube. The helmet is unit marked to several Preußen Eisenbahn Regiments and Battalions. The Pickelhaube is also owner marked to a "Pionier Hönicke". Link here: http://www.kaisersbunker.com/dunkelblau/helmets/dbh35.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Tony ;

14 th Co.
I did know they went that high ?
They must because that is the way
the helmet is marked
any info for me on that ?
Thanks
Steve
 
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