Ersatz helmet in tombac

[kaiser]

This is not a pristine helmet but since the rarety of the materials they used its not so common to find one

Its a one piece shell made out of tombac and painted black

This is a helmet i bought from my friend karel van bosstraeten long before he passed away

Think he would appriciate it knowing it is still in my collection and will be for many years to come

 

[Kaikun2001]

Here is a simular ersatz with a rather unique design like yours. @kaiser

 

[JohnS3rd]

Thanks for the pictures of the ersatz pickelhauben. They held a brief moment in the Great War and are quite unique.
Best regards
John

 

[J.LeBrasseur]

Never seen that before, a very cool helmet!

James

 

[Zebedeus]

This is not a pristine helmet but since the rarety of the materials they used its not so common to find one

Its a one piece shell made out of tombac and painted black

This is a helmet i bought from my friend karel van bosstraeten long before he passed away

Think he would appriciate it knowing it is still in my collection and will be for many years to come View attachment 30464View attachment 30465View attachment 30466View attachment 30467View attachment 30468View attachment 30469View attachment 30470View attachment 30471View attachment 30472View attachment 30473

Nice and rare ersatz helmet. Not common to find. I never had one of these. It is on my wanted list.

 

[Zebedeus]

Here is a simular ersatz with a rather unique design like yours. @kaiser

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Wonderful helmet. Is it with the brass body also?

 

[kaiser]

Wonderful helmet. Is it with the brass body also?

Looking closely to the rim of the helmet i think this one wil be a metal one

 

[Zebedeus]

Looking closely to the rim of the helmet i think this one wil be a metal one

You are right. There is some points with scratch and can see some rust.

 

[poniatowski]

A nice example! Thanks for sharing.

 

[USMC-EOD]

Really unique, and one I have never seen either.

I have a couple of steel ersatz ( not tombac) that look very similar, but do not have a rear spine or visor trim.

The trim on yours really does make this ersatz variation pop! I really like it.

Thank you for showing it!

Bryan.

 

[pickelhauben]

The shell looks brass to me though the scratches.
Have you ever given the shell the magnet test?
If it sticks it is steel and will rust.
If it does not stick it very well could be brass or tomback.

 

[kaiser]

The shell looks brass to me though the scratches.
Have you ever given the shell the magnet test?
If it sticks it is steel and will rust.
If it does not stick it very well could be brass or tomback.

If you are refering to the one witch started this topic it is a tombac shell it thus not stick to a magnet

 

[b.loree]

A very unique helmet and as has been said..,,never seen before.

 

[CLOVIS 57]

Hello,
Indeed, this model is extremely rare. Only one manufacturer made this model, either in tombac or aluminum. In one or the other metal it is always the same bomb, reinforced at the edge by a hem enclosing a wire.
Here is my brass model, it is a Badois, then a photo of a model identical to yours found in excavation.

Then we have another tombac helmet, which was offered to me some time ago, and finally, a detail of the same model in "Duralumin" made by the same manufacturer, with the same stamping press.

 

[b.loree]

Great photos Clovis. I have seen a bavarioan officer helme made from aluminium.....would this have been made by the same manufacturer of these helmets?

 

[kaiser]

Great to see an other model. and you know by any chance who the manufacturer was that produced these types. I have been looking in books and online but not yet found what i wanted to know

 

[Kaikun2001]

Hello,
Indeed, this model is extremely rare. Only one manufacturer made this model, either in tombac or aluminum. In one or the other metal it is always the same bomb, reinforced at the edge by a hem enclosing a wire.
Here is my brass model, it is a Badois, then a photo of a model identical to yours found in excavation.

Then we have another tombac helmet, which was offered to me some time ago, and finally, a detail of the same model in "Duralumin" made by the same manufacturer, with the same stamping press.

@CLOVIS 57 would my example be the same maker?

 

[CLOVIS 57]

Hello,
b.Loree :
You have to see the helmet in detail. The model of this manufacturer is made with the same matrix whether it is in tombac or aluminum. For example, I have a Saxon "troupe" helmet in aluminum but it does not have the same shape and therefore it is from another supplier.
On my Saxon, only the hull is in aluminium, the visor and the nape of the neck are in leather, sewn on the hull.

 

[CLOVIS 57]

Hello Kaiser :
Concerning the name of the manufacturer of the "Metallic Ersatz" I only know Bing, Weissenburger and Von der Heyden which were the subject of Patents deposited and acceptance by contract of the army. Unlike cuirassier helmets which were stamped by the manufacturer (Juncker, Nachtzigall, Lachmann etc...) the ersatz-metallic infantry helmets were not.

 

[CLOVIS 57]

Hello Kaikoun :
Absolutely ! The same as mine, (both from Baden) and the same as Kaiser's.