FRESH TO MARKET
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poniatowski
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I saw this too, and am thinking on it.... but $$$ are rather short right now, so who knows. For me, the photos of the liner don't show up, but I'll take Karel's word for it. Does look pretty nice.
Ron
Ron
poniatowski
Well-known member
Somebody told the seller this wasn't Prussian.... great. Now there's a 'rare helmet' blurb a the bottom of the auction... nice.
argh...
Ron
argh...
Ron
ww1czechlegion
Well-known member
Yes, one of our very own members on here apparently felt it was their "duty" to identify this item to the seller, and raise all kinds of red flags to her by alerting the fact that it is a "RARE" helmet. The member is easily identified in the "questions and answers" section at the bottom of the auction listing (Ed).
All I can say is "thanks"
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Honestly, I have to ask if you are working for the buyer? Or is it your best interest to help other forum members (even yourself?) on here by simply letting the thing alone, and let the auction ride? Anyone on here of ANY intelligence knows what the helmet is. Was it necessary to alert the seller? I think there are probably several forum members on here who are disappointed by this action. Such is life, I suppose...
Alan
All I can say is "thanks"
](*,) :thumbsdown: [-X Honestly, I have to ask if you are working for the buyer? Or is it your best interest to help other forum members (even yourself?) on here by simply letting the thing alone, and let the auction ride? Anyone on here of ANY intelligence knows what the helmet is. Was it necessary to alert the seller? I think there are probably several forum members on here who are disappointed by this action. Such is life, I suppose...
Alan
RON
Well-known member
Absolutely! Soon enough this would surface back somewhere with a replaced star and the seller will say:
"100% untouched fresh from the attic veteran pick-up rare S-W Officer Pickelhaube and all the bla bla bla" and will price it for 3,000 Euros or more... :-x
Come to think of it, maybe providing the seller with the info was the right and honest thing to do after all as she seems to be a very nice lady--I'm the one who asked about the helmet's condition and she was very cordial unlike many sellers--and, although I love to see bargains occur from time to time with that hobby of ours becoming way too expensive ( :twisted: ), at least we've prevented some dealer from making a ridiculously high profit margin on this one!
My two cents... 8-[
"100% untouched fresh from the attic veteran pick-up rare S-W Officer Pickelhaube and all the bla bla bla" and will price it for 3,000 Euros or more... :-x
Come to think of it, maybe providing the seller with the info was the right and honest thing to do after all as she seems to be a very nice lady--I'm the one who asked about the helmet's condition and she was very cordial unlike many sellers--and, although I love to see bargains occur from time to time with that hobby of ours becoming way too expensive ( :twisted: ), at least we've prevented some dealer from making a ridiculously high profit margin on this one!
My two cents... 8-[
joerookery
Well-known member
Why? We all like you.
joerookery
Well-known member
I don't agree with this Alan. While I understand what you're saying I have always found it best for me to make sure that the seller knew what he was selling warts and gemstones. I do not want to be in a position where the seller comes to me and says "you knew what you were doing and you took advantage of me." I might be in the minority but this always has worked for me.
ww1czechlegion
Well-known member
Maybe I'm the one who should be going.
There's Absolutely No Reason for Ed to be going anywhere. He only did what he thought was right. Neither I nor anyone else can fault a man for their conscience. I thought that I was simply adding my thoughts to the frustration already posted by several of the other members in what was written prior to my posting. I absolutely meant no "ill will" towards Ed, and I know that nobody else did either in expressing their frustration either. Nobody wants to see Ed go anywhere.
I entirely agree with Joe in the situation where you are dealing with an individual or family face-to-face. A Public Auction such as eBay is an entirely different situation. It is public, and everyone in the public has a chance to see an item, and to bid on it, which is entirely different than when you're dealing with a person or family face-to-face buying something for yourself or for re-sale.
What my point of my posting was, and what we're forgetting is that Absolutely Nobody of any collecting intelligence level on here or elsewhere did not know what this helmet was. The seller was the only interested party in the whole auction listing who didn't know what it was. Big Deal, let it ride. I'm convinced the auction would still have played itself out to an honest price for her. And I'm sure it still will. I'll be shocked if this helmet does not bring her somewhere between $3,500 and $4,000.00, maybe even as much as $4,500 since the dollar is weak against the Euro, even with it being a wartime helmet. Maybe she should be contacted, and tell her to have Randy & Remy sell the helmet for her on their website? Wouldn't that be in her best interest? Would that make it totally "honest", and totally legitimate? I'm only asking, and not trying to be cynical, or a smart-alec in saying this.
What people don't realize when they feel it is their "duty" to reveal what the identification of something is and show too much interest in the object, is that it can truly mess up the end results. I have seen sellers close auctions, sell off-line, and in the face-to-face business like I deal with in buying directly from families it is a fact that if you show too much interest and tell them too much about the object, it often screws up the sale and the seller decides they want to keep the object. And I'm not even bringing into play the fact of being honest with people in making price offers to them. I'm simply talking about what happens when you give sellers too-much information, or show too much interest in wanting to buy an object. I know and have seen that first-hand. Too much information invariably kills the deal, period. And yes, honesty in dealing with others is always the best course with prices, but too much information and expressing too much interest in the object also kills the deal. Enough said on my part.
All the Best,
Alan
There's Absolutely No Reason for Ed to be going anywhere. He only did what he thought was right. Neither I nor anyone else can fault a man for their conscience. I thought that I was simply adding my thoughts to the frustration already posted by several of the other members in what was written prior to my posting. I absolutely meant no "ill will" towards Ed, and I know that nobody else did either in expressing their frustration either. Nobody wants to see Ed go anywhere.
I entirely agree with Joe in the situation where you are dealing with an individual or family face-to-face. A Public Auction such as eBay is an entirely different situation. It is public, and everyone in the public has a chance to see an item, and to bid on it, which is entirely different than when you're dealing with a person or family face-to-face buying something for yourself or for re-sale.
What my point of my posting was, and what we're forgetting is that Absolutely Nobody of any collecting intelligence level on here or elsewhere did not know what this helmet was. The seller was the only interested party in the whole auction listing who didn't know what it was. Big Deal, let it ride. I'm convinced the auction would still have played itself out to an honest price for her. And I'm sure it still will. I'll be shocked if this helmet does not bring her somewhere between $3,500 and $4,000.00, maybe even as much as $4,500 since the dollar is weak against the Euro, even with it being a wartime helmet. Maybe she should be contacted, and tell her to have Randy & Remy sell the helmet for her on their website? Wouldn't that be in her best interest? Would that make it totally "honest", and totally legitimate? I'm only asking, and not trying to be cynical, or a smart-alec in saying this.
What people don't realize when they feel it is their "duty" to reveal what the identification of something is and show too much interest in the object, is that it can truly mess up the end results. I have seen sellers close auctions, sell off-line, and in the face-to-face business like I deal with in buying directly from families it is a fact that if you show too much interest and tell them too much about the object, it often screws up the sale and the seller decides they want to keep the object. And I'm not even bringing into play the fact of being honest with people in making price offers to them. I'm simply talking about what happens when you give sellers too-much information, or show too much interest in wanting to buy an object. I know and have seen that first-hand. Too much information invariably kills the deal, period. And yes, honesty in dealing with others is always the best course with prices, but too much information and expressing too much interest in the object also kills the deal. Enough said on my part.
All the Best,
Alan
Adler
New member
Now, now gentlemen... nothing to get fed up for. Maybe things were said on the wrong place at the wrong time, but as Alan says: Absolutely Nobody of any collecting intelligence level on here or elsewhere did not know what this helmet was.
So since it's an auction, at the end the right price will be payed I think...
Also, when someone is selling a helmet with issues, nobody complaint about telling the seller that his helmet is no good...
So No need to go anywhere gentlemen!
Adler
So since it's an auction, at the end the right price will be payed I think...
Also, when someone is selling a helmet with issues, nobody complaint about telling the seller that his helmet is no good...
So No need to go anywhere gentlemen!
Adler
Guy's Life is to short, lets move on.
James
James
Spiker
Well-known member
I understand what Alan is talking about ,no hard feelings , I should not have interfered ,my eagerness to please always gets me in to trouble ,time and again. :grommit:
Having said that …when I join a forum, I ‘m only doing it to have some fun, it would be stupid to
pay a lot of monthly fees on internet connections (Belgium=expensive) and then getting upset by
using it.
Like James said, life is to short.
There’s too much bullshit already in life to deal with, so that’s why I would bail out as soon as I feel
bad vibes.
But I decided to stick around
Having said that …when I join a forum, I ‘m only doing it to have some fun, it would be stupid to
pay a lot of monthly fees on internet connections (Belgium=expensive) and then getting upset by
using it.
Like James said, life is to short.
There’s too much bullshit already in life to deal with, so that’s why I would bail out as soon as I feel
bad vibes.
But I decided to stick around