GDC helmet
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Liongules
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I don't know enough to give a real opinion on this, so wait until someone who knows a lot more responds. My first thought the helmet looks nice, but the eagle doesn't look quite right to me. He looks like he's standing up too straight to me and the wings aren't out enough, but I'm probably wrong.
The other thing is, if the helmet is real then the price is ridiculously low!!!
The other thing is, if the helmet is real then the price is ridiculously low!!!
Lots of red flags, I would need pictures of the inside as well.
James
James
edwin
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Although I am no expert there are several things, which in part have already been mentioned above, that worry me.
First the price, which apears indeed ridiculously low. For example, a similar helmet (of excellent quality) is offered by Weitze for nearly 20.000 euro's....
https://www.weitze.net/detail/14/Preussen_Helm_fuer_Offiziere_im_Regiment_Garde_du_Corps_bzw_Garde_Kuerassier_Regiment__108714.html
Second, the parade eagle appears to be in an strange upright posistion (see for a comparison the helmet offered by Weitze and also similar helmets depicted in various reference books, viz. page 71 of Kubes's study of German of helmets and uniforms).
Third, no pictures of the interior. No pictures of the interior are shown on ebay, which is suspicious because it may point to, for example, a repro liner etc. However, you obtained some pictures of the helmets interior directly from the seller. As far as I can see this may be ok, although the bolt in the middle to attach the eagle on the surface of the helmet seems of a different type than the one on the helmet offered by Weitze. This may be explainable but I am no expert on these helmets. However, I think is suspicious.
These are just 3 points that are of notable concern in my opinion.
Best regards,
Edwin
First the price, which apears indeed ridiculously low. For example, a similar helmet (of excellent quality) is offered by Weitze for nearly 20.000 euro's....
https://www.weitze.net/detail/14/Preussen_Helm_fuer_Offiziere_im_Regiment_Garde_du_Corps_bzw_Garde_Kuerassier_Regiment__108714.html
Second, the parade eagle appears to be in an strange upright posistion (see for a comparison the helmet offered by Weitze and also similar helmets depicted in various reference books, viz. page 71 of Kubes's study of German of helmets and uniforms).
Third, no pictures of the interior. No pictures of the interior are shown on ebay, which is suspicious because it may point to, for example, a repro liner etc. However, you obtained some pictures of the helmets interior directly from the seller. As far as I can see this may be ok, although the bolt in the middle to attach the eagle on the surface of the helmet seems of a different type than the one on the helmet offered by Weitze. This may be explainable but I am no expert on these helmets. However, I think is suspicious.
These are just 3 points that are of notable concern in my opinion.
Best regards,
Edwin
poniatowski
Well-known member
Fake. yeah, agreed. Tombak has a more copper than brass color, but this looks like pure copper...
I have an original GdK officer and there are no spike holes. If you look at the Kaiser's there are no holes for the spike retainers either.
HOWEVER, and this is something I remembered AFTER I made this original post, there is one extra hole under the 'clover leaf'. This is for a small alignment pin in the underside of the base plate... I can't remember if it's toward the front or back, but it is a detail that denotes authenticity.
Not that mine is as nice as the Kaiser's!
Ron
I have an original GdK officer and there are no spike holes. If you look at the Kaiser's there are no holes for the spike retainers either.
HOWEVER, and this is something I remembered AFTER I made this original post, there is one extra hole under the 'clover leaf'. This is for a small alignment pin in the underside of the base plate... I can't remember if it's toward the front or back, but it is a detail that denotes authenticity.
Not that mine is as nice as the Kaiser's!
Ron
Complete fabrication. Even the rivets holding the visor and rear tail pieces on are incorrect. Chinscales are from a Pickelhaube, Perhaps the seller's father started off with a pair of chinscales, and "restored" it by slapping all the other parts together. Eagle is atrocious. 
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poniatowski
Well-known member
That's more than I paid for my original!! Poor lamb.
Ron
Ron