Gentlemen, I need your help, helmet find.

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Rendsburg

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Hi Guys,
I know I'm out of the context, but as I know that some of you can have other interests on militaria, please help me to determine age and origin of this beautifull helmet. I love it, and it can be mine.
Otto
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Otto,
This is very exciting, it looks to be an Italian WWI Farina helmet, there are reproductions out there, but this one looks to have some age to it. Maybe Chip will chime in on this as I am sure he knows much more than I do. I do not think they had a liner, I believe that they were worn over the kappe. the longer skirt was worn to the front for greater protection of the face.
Best wishes
Gus
 
Otto: Gus is exactly correct this is a second pattern Italian Farina helmet. There was no liner. A padded cap having the same shape as the helmet, including visor, was worn under the helmet. There is some very good information on these helmets in Elmetti di tutto il mondo by Paolo Marzetti.

Reservist1
 
Hi Friends,
Thank you for the answers. Joe, he is magnetic and it seems that was buried or forgotten somewhere with humidity. Gus, I don't have doubts that he is original, I didn't only know the origin. The owner thinks it is a much older helmet, something medieval (middle age).
It's a heavy helmet, with no holes and it's not missing parts. R1 and timp, thanks for the additional informations.
Otto :D
 
Otto, may I ask how much he is wanting for it? It is definately not medieval, it is WWI. But that does not mean it is of little value.

Gus
 
Otto
Found links:


http://harlokk.altervista.org/elmetti.htm

http://www.cimeetrincee.it/elmofari.htm

http://www.esercito.difesa.it/root/Uniformi/sto_equip_elmfar.asp

http://www.glialpini.com/farina.html
 
Hi Otto,

Very interesting purchase, I hope it'll be yours. Look at this link, you will see a complete set of Farina's companies armour:

http://www.militaryshop.cz/noron/webgen/stranky/index.html

section WW1 -> helmets -> item#222.236

Nice dream, friend... :P
 
These are very interesting helmets, never heard or seen a pic of one before. They must have been totally uncomfortable to wear, look how thick that front plate is. Don't imagine many soldiers wore them for long periods of time.
 
I read a small article a year or so ago. I do miltary figures . Someone entered a figure of one of yjese figures in a European Competition ( I will see if I can find it ) .These were issued to units similar to Sturm units .
The figure was done in ths helmet and accopmanird armour . The unir depicted was charged a bridge held by Austrian.s .
Aian I will see i i can find the article otto at least you can see the armour on a figure.
Mark
 
Guys,

I do have one of these helmets. It was pictured in Brian Calkins book on WWI headgear. Unfortunately, the book was in black and white. I have copied the page. I hope you can see it well enough. It does have a gray cotton quilted liner (not attached in any way), which is marked to the same manufacturer. It even has the original chinstrap.

Chip

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Hey Chip,
That is nice, I bet there are not many with the quilted cap/liner floating around.
Gus
 
Gus,

Yeah, it's amazing that the two pieces stayed together all of these years. This one was obviously never used in combat. I read a portion of a book that described an Italian assault on an Austrian position. The Italian general sent orders for the Farina armor to be brought up. No volunteers were to be had. The soldiers knew that putting on that armor was a death sentence. And sure enough the assault was turned back and the armor wearers were all cut down.

Chip
 
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