Grenadier Guard Regt 7 ?
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KAGGR#1
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Sorry , but there is no Grenadier Garde Regt 7
only Grenadier Regt 7 If correct it should have a G R 7 front plate with a banner with a date on it
Or it could be a Prussian Garde unit , but the side buttons with the cyphers should not be there.
As is , it is an incorrect helmet .
Here are examples of G R 7 enlisted and officer
Steve
KAGGR#1
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Any changes in the helmet ; front plate or the side rosettes would have been done by a collector or a dealer .
Not the soldier who wore the helmet during active duty
Steve
Amybellars
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The side cypers are that of grenadier 7 but the plate is wrong. Let me know if u want to get rid of the cypers.
Amybellars
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Yes u need the grenadier 7 plate or u can use the normal rosettes and take it as a garde helmet
John Josef
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Sorry it wasn't what you hoped for, that can be a real bummer. Commiserations
KAGGR#1
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Yes , just like what you show .Prongs that push back.
Steve
Bobted
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So thank you to Glenn J for this useful bit of information.
"according to the regimental history of GR 7 (1897), the rosettes cyphered rosettes were introduced in February 1875. A similar cypher was introduced at the same time to be worn on the swords/sabres. The history further states that these distinctions would be worn on transfer to another unit"
So my guy changed units kept his cyphers. Rob
"according to the regimental history of GR 7 (1897), the rosettes cyphered rosettes were introduced in February 1875. A similar cypher was introduced at the same time to be worn on the swords/sabres. The history further states that these distinctions would be worn on transfer to another unit"
So my guy changed units kept his cyphers. Rob
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Hello Rob,
One observation concerning your privately purchased pickelhaube which is a Other Ranks or a Enlisted Man’s helmet. The hardware, i.e. front visor being brown verses green, the cockade and brads, holding the spike base in place, owner might have been a one-year volunteer or Senior NCO. And I see what you mean if the owner is an officer, he would continue to wear the buttons of this prestigious regiment. However, I do not know if applies to NCO’s or One-Year Volunteers, as the Prussian military had rules for just about anything related to the wear of the uniform. Forum member Sandy might be able to provide some background. Thank you for sharing your addition to your collection.
Best regards,
John
One observation concerning your privately purchased pickelhaube which is a Other Ranks or a Enlisted Man’s helmet. The hardware, i.e. front visor being brown verses green, the cockade and brads, holding the spike base in place, owner might have been a one-year volunteer or Senior NCO. And I see what you mean if the owner is an officer, he would continue to wear the buttons of this prestigious regiment. However, I do not know if applies to NCO’s or One-Year Volunteers, as the Prussian military had rules for just about anything related to the wear of the uniform. Forum member Sandy might be able to provide some background. Thank you for sharing your addition to your collection.
Best regards,
John
Rob,
No offence meant; I placed my emoji on post #2 and it should have been post #13. My bad in my previous post so I have corrected my post and just delated the other one in my reply to you.
I was laughing because wearing a pickelhaube abound my house is something I would do, and have done, much to the chagrin of other members on the forum, who would only use white gloves to touch their collection. I have also given you a thumbs up in post #2. So again, no attempting to cause you any offense. And, for those who wear gloves when handling these one hundred plus year old beautiful relics, I also use cotton gloves to handle most of my pickelhauben also, so again not a putdown to any member of this august forum who is very careful with their collection.
Best regards,
John
KAGGR#1
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John
I agree with what you write here. The helmet not for a full officer,
so I don't feel that the soldier who this helmet would have
been entitled to wear the cyphered rosettes. The helmet is O K
and having the side rosettes are a big plus, just not on this helmet.
Steve