Hamburg in the 1860s

joerookery

joerookery

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At least I think it in the 1860's.


ps1420 by joerookery, on Flickr

Karl Wilkens Tambour Major
der Bürgergarde of Hamburg.

Died in the cholera epidemic of 1892
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Choleraepidemie_von_1892

These guys were the predecessor of JR 76.
 
I will say that perhaps there is a disconnect. The dates of the cholera epidemic are pretty set for Hamburg. It is written on the back of the card. I am not sure how good the website is on that specific point! :P
 
Joe,

almost certainly 1860s. These chaps were purely militia and not part of Hamburg's active military component, the Hamburger Contingent. The contingent was dissolved in 1867 and the Bürgergarde in 1868. Interestling, enough, Infanterie-Regiment Nr. 76 was initially not formed from the citizens of Hamburg but of formed companies from various Prussian Line Regiments: GR 9, IR 21, IR 49, IR 61 and a handful of former Hannoverian Soldiers plus a few soldiers from the former contingent.

Regards
Glenn
 
Good morning Glenn! Thanks for the answer on the 92nd.

What I was talking about this one was not so much the formation of the Regiment as the traditions. I have always been a bit uneasy with all those entities and states that did not contribute troops directly-for instance Lübeck.

This is fully true for Lübeck, where the 162nd Infantry was a completely Prussian regiment. But the 75th and 76th Infantry in Bremen and Hamburg were distinct Hanseatic regiments based on the tradition of the Hanseatic “Bürger-Militär”.
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Nice photo Joe, he certainly looks like the right era....out of curiosity is the image a CDV or a Cabinet Card?

Larry
 
I'm not sure I know the difference. I will post the back of the card.

I have several Franco-Prussian war pictures I would like you to help me identify–I will post them here in a different thread.


ps1420A by joerookery, on Flickr
 
Thanks Joe....It's all in the size of the mounting card, a CDV, or Cartes de Visite, is about the size of a business or calling card (slightly larger really, hence its name). A cabinet card is generally 4x6 inches or so, give or take a bit.

The reason for my question is that the cabinet style mounting came into existence later than the CDV's. The CDV's became popular in the late 1850's and onwards, with the cabinets gaining popularity in the 1870's and later. However, both forms co-existed for quite a while so overlaps are indeed possible. In addition people sometimes took an original CDV, had it enlarged and placed on a cabinet card mounting. I have several 1870-1871 soldier images done in that fashion, some of them with American photographer logos at the bottom. Wierd huh.

Larry
 
Thank you! This is large what you would call a cabinet card. However I have seen these CDV type going right up into wartime. Also, it seems as though there are really really big CDV types but maybe that is just what you explained. Then you have a really really humongous cabinet cards. I mean I have some that you could eat dinner off of.


ps1015 by joerookery, on Flickr
 
Hi Joe

This is what a typical cabinet card looks like in Larmo's world
lw1rs.jpg


The mounting card measures 4.25x6.5 inches and shows quite well the practice of taking a CDV (notice the trimmed corners of the original image in the background), photographing it and placing it on larger stock for a larger, perhaps clearer image. Also note that he is a veteran of both the 1866 and 1870 Wars.

The one you posted may have a different proper name to it , I do not know what it is, the real photography guys certainly would.

L
 
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