I am confused!

Amybellars

Amybellars

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German Pre-WWI Garde du Corps NCO Rank Helmet

This is a clean and honest example of the iconic early stepped-peak helmet worn by the elite Garde du Corps. This particular piece serves as a characteristic example of a service-worn cavalry helmet, reflecting the reality of depot repairs and maintenance common to metal headgear used by mounted...
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Does the description mean the garde plate is a reproduction? or a repaired garde plate?

I have a good look at the plate based on the pics and it looks good.

Regards
Amy Bellars
 
But you can clearly see a hole in the helmet on the right side ....:cautious:
 

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Amy,

This is a put together piece from old worn out spare parts. I don't like the wappen or the helmet shell at all. It's an extremely old shell, missing at least 1/4 of it's trim. The back spine has a hole from over polishing. The wappen is either over polished or some sort of a sand cast. It has lost it's crispness and detail. I won't bother going any further.

If you were absolutely desperate, this helmet would display OK, from 50 feet away, looking at it's right side in a dimly lit room.

John
 
It would be interesting to see the eagle base and wappen holes in the helmet body. Looks like the eagle may be shifted forward, thus the sideways shifted wappen (it’s not centered). I believe the early stepped body should have the eagle base with 4 domed studs, but an upgrade to a later base is reasonable.

Ron
 
thanks guy.

I am confused as I did see the extra hole but when said period repair, I would expect the plate to be the same size. I always believe that the Germans stick to their precise measurements.
JohnM highlighted the words put together and I woke up a bit. It didn't come across to my mind immediately.
I already have a nice one so I am ok not to have it.
Just a shame that an elite regiment has a hole exposed there.
Regards
Amy Bellars
 
You are all so unfair. You should acknowledge the admirable marketing strategy that turns the flaws of this poor thing into a unique historical testimony of the know-how deployed at repair workshops in the Imperial German army! 😊(read the description if you didn’t)

In marketing it is named the Pratfall effect (derived from a concept in social psychology: if you are good at something and respected, and once admit you have made an error, you will be seen as even gooder) and consists in turning a flaw/weakness into a positive selling argument. There are multiple examples: Guinness beer, Orangina soda, Volkswagen cars, Listerine mouthwash…
 
A so-called repair carried out by a workshop (BJA and so on) is often one of the favourite arguments used by certain sellers to offload composite helmets or manipulated items. This is just as bogus as the argument of a change of regiment to explain double holes.
Philippe
 
Hello, this is a KR6 model 1867 helmet converted into a bodyguard helmet. The Guard star is a reproduction; as for the eagle, better photos would be needed, especially of the underside of the base.

KR6 Fähnrich.jpg
This explains the two 8mm holes which correspond to the Prussian eagle line.
 
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