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911car said:
Major Seelemann was killed on 9/9/14... does it mean that RIR81 was engaged at La Marne?
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Yes!

RJR81 was here (21 RD):

1914 Westfront

22.08.1914 - 23.08.1914: Schlacht bei Neufchâteau
24.08.1914: Tremblois
24.08.1914 - 29.08.1914: Schlacht an der Maas
25.08.1914 - 26.08.1914: Carignan
28.08.1914: Yoncq - Flaba
30.08.1914 - 05.09.1914: Verfolgung von der Maas zur Marne
31.08.1914: Oches
06.09.1914 - 12.09.1914: Schlacht an der Marne
13.09.1914 - 10.10.1914: Stellungskämpfe in der Champagne
15.09.1914 - 16.09.1914: Erstürmung von Servon
15.09.1914 - 22.09.1915: Stellungskämpfe in der Champagne und westlich der Argonnen
26.09.1914: Erstürmung des Bois de Ville und der Briquetterie nördlich der Ville sur Tourbe
1915

03.02.1915: Erstürmung der Höhe 191, nördlich Massiges
15.05.1915 - 16.05.1915: Gefecht bei Ville sur Tourbe
23.09.1915 - 03.11.1915: Herbstschlacht in der Champagne 1915
04.11.1915 - 14.07.1916: Stellungskämpfe in der Champagne und westlich der Argonnen

Philippe
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Thank you Philippe! Very instructive.
This regiment felt the heat! Bataille des Frontieres, La Marne, Champagne...
Bruno
 
911car said:
It does look like "Woyter"L1010098.JPG
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Not WOYTER but WOLTER :wink:

There are a few WOLTER in the RJR81... 4 or 5 guys with this name, but there is only one in the 2. Bataillon.

WOLTER, 5/RJR81, without mentioning of his first name and rank, missing during the fight at Petit-Noir (22.8.14) and Tremblois (24.8.14).

http://des.genealogy.net/search/show/294725

And WOLTER, Gefreiter, first name Franz, 5/RJR81, published as taken prisoner in a late publication of 1916:

http://des.genealogy.net/search/show/3118707

The latest publication of 1919 is mentioning he was taken prisoner in Neufchateau on the 22.8.14 and is now back home.

http://des.genealogy.net/search/show/5922081

I am sure this is the same guy and he was the wearer of your helmet.

Philippe
:wink:
 
All is matching together!

One can find Franz WOLTER (born 17.7.1888) in the prisoners register of the Red Cross:

https://grandeguerre.icrc.org/fr/File/Zoom/D/15/01/C_G1_D_15_01_1688/C_G1_D_15_01_1688_0522_0.JPG/

https://grandeguerre.icrc.org/fr/File/Zoom/D/15/01/C_G1_D_15_01_1688/C_G1_D_15_01_1688_0523_0.JPG/

https://grandeguerre.icrc.org/fr/File/Zoom/D/15/01/C_G1_D_15_01_1688/C_G1_D_15_01_1688_0524_0.JPG/

In Cahors, 1914:

https://grandeguerre.icrc.org/fr/File/Zoom/D/02/01/C_G1_D_02_01_0015/C_G1_D_02_01_0015_0130.JPG/

In Auch, 1915:

https://grandeguerre.icrc.org/fr/File/Zoom/D/02/01/C_G1_D_02_01_0026/C_G1_D_02_01_0026_0158.JPG/

And Cahors again in the year 1916:

https://grandeguerre.icrc.org/fr/File/Zoom/D/02/01/C_G1_D_02_01_0045/C_G1_D_02_01_0045_0128.JPG/

Philippe
:)
 
Fantastic, Philippe. This sorry little helmet, long abandoned at the top of a cupboard, becomes a time machine. Franz escaped the Marne then, was made prisoner at Neufchateau and survived the war.
So many thanks for investigating!
Bruno
 
Just saw your last post. Amazing. You seem to have archives for everything.
These german prisoners were dispatched all over France, but principally in the West, South West and Center. Far away from the frontline. And even in Morocco, which at that time was a French colony.
 
911car said:
You seem to have archives for everything.

Unfortunately not, Bruno :(
Big desaster that the prussian Kriegsstammrollen were destroyed during WWII, so the saxon ones...But the bavarian, Baden and Württemberg Kriegsstammrollen are saved and still complete! Such a great fun to search through them, although the navigation is quite complex :eek:

Philippe
:)
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