Kokade qouetion

[gregM]

If I understand this correctly. In 1897 Prussion spikes added the
red and white rosette. Does that mean that up untill that time
there would be helmets with the same rosette on both sides?
Say a Prussion m1895 with the black and white on both sides.

Thanks,
Greg

 

[reservist1]

Does that mean that up untill that time
there would be helmets with the same rosette on both sides?
Say a Prussion m1895 with the black and white on both sides

Greg: Prior to the introduction of the national kokarde (black,white, red) in 1897 a single kokarde in the appropriate state colors was worn on the right side of the spike helmet. Upon introduction of the national kokarde the state kokarde was moved to the left side of the helmet and the new kokarde was placed on the right side.

Reservist1

 

[gregM]

Thanks !!

 

[KAGGR 1870]

Hello
Prior to 1897 the regulation for the wear of the pickelhaube kokarde was only one kokarde (state kokarde) to the right side, this concerning:
Baden, Bavaria, Hessia-Darmstadt, Mecklemburg Schwering and Strelitz, Prussia, Saxony, Wurtemberg.
but the wear of the Kokarde is more complicate in the "small states" regiments annexed and incorporated in Prussian Army from 1867
this have two kokardes:
Left side: Land kokarde- Right side: prussian kokarde
Here is the list
Anhalt (IR 93),Brunswick (IR 92 from 1886) Lippe-Detmodlt (IR55/III), Oldenburg (IR 91), Reuss (IR 96/II), Saxe Altenburg (IR 96/I),Saxe Coburg Gotha (IR 95/I-II), Saxe Meiningen (IR 95/II),Saxe Weimar ( IR 94), Schaumburg Lippe (IR 55/III) Schwarzburg Rudolstadt (IR 96/III), Schwarzburg Sonderhausen (IR 71/I), Waldeck Pyrmont (IR 83/III)
Bremen (IR 75), Hamburg (IR 76/I-II) Lübeck (IR 76/III)
Last problem the state kokarde was kept in case of mutation.
You imagine the great combination !!!
All this problems was abolished in 1897 with the wear of the Reichkokarde
Regards

 

[gregM]

Thanks guys for the help

The reason I asked this is that I had seen a Prussion m1895
with 2 black / white kokades on it. I remembered reading that
in 1897 they changed to the different kokades but it made me
think what would have been appropriate for 1895-1896.

Thanks again.
Greg